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re: Book Board: Fantasy, Sci-Fi, and Adventure series recommendations and progress.

Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:50 pm to
Posted by Jayre
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:50 pm to
Glad you posted this thread. I'm an avid ASOIAF fan and have also read GRRM's Fevre Dream, good stuff.

Which of these three series would be most rewarding to get into?

The Wheel of Time series
The Dark Tower series
The Vampire Chronicles

thanks for the input!


Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:07 pm to
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The Wheel of Time series
The Dark Tower series
The Vampire Chronicles


Obviously depends on taste. I've read ASOIAF, WOT, and Dark Tower. They are each very different. I prefer WOT to all, but Dark Tower is far from your typical fantasy fair. It has a murderous train, Flagg from The Stand as the primary villain, a Clint Eastwood type cowboy gunslinger as your hero, incursions to other worlds, a complex passage of time, among many many others.

If you like the hero's journey, complex and powerful magic, a very rich world, and political machinations, I would say give WOT a try.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8586 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:01 am to
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I guess good to know about Sword of Truth. It seems like fantasy circles don't really hold it in high regard like Malazan or Wheel of Time. The reason I asked about it with Wheel was because of Goodreads the first book had a 4.11 out of 5 and Wheel was at 4.15.



The first one or two of sword of truth aren't horrible, they are just pretty derivative of better fantasy works and contain nothing original. But after that the story devolves into a mixture of Objectivist philosophy and ridiculous storylines. I only read the first 5, but I hear they got way worse past that.

If you liked Gardens of the Moon you should really enjoy the next few and the malazan series in general. Things become a bit more clear the farther in you go. If you are looking for better stuff than Wheel of Time I'd go with a few of these:

Joe Abercrombie's first law series and other books in the same world as Carson mentioned are great.

Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch is fantastic (gentleman bastard series)

Brent Weeks Night Angel trilogy

Pat Rothfuss's Kingkiller Chronicle books

All of the above would mix pretty well in between Malazan books as well I think, as they are quicker reads with a smaller cast of characters.

Jim Butcher's Dresden Files would be another great series to mix in as faster reads as well.

But if you are looking for something similar in style to Malazan Wheel of Time works, as it has a similar high magic world with a large cast of characters, though it way more traditional fantasy and less gritty than Malazan, and of course as mentions hits a big lull during the middle. I will say if you have issues with small details like grunting in Malazan you are going to really hate Jordan's writing quirks when writing females.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8586 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:03 am to
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The Wheel of Time series
The Dark Tower series
The Vampire Chronicles


Tough choices there, as all three series start strong then end with a whimper. Dark Tower has the strongest single books IMO, but Wheel of Time is probably a stronger series overall. The Lestat books are strong at the start, but kinda devolve into a pulpy mess towards the latter books, I'd say they are the weakest of the three series by far, but the early books are very much worth reading, as are Rice's early Mayfair books and the Mummy.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 12:04 am
Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
16740 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:01 am to
We read the same books lol.

I'm starting lestat today. (The one released last month)

What did you think?

I read the wolf books her son wrote and didn't find them too exciting.

How about the outlander books? They are kind of girly but after I finished the song series they were a great read...lots of battle and war to go with the girl stuff. I read all 7 and LOVED them.

Not the traditional outlander...the ones written by Diana g.

I like them more than song. They are my favorite series so far.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 11:05 am
Posted by jamsmiley
Zachary La
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:10 am to
i heard the acts of Cain was good
or the Black company
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Which of these three series would be most rewarding to get into?

The Wheel of Time series
The Dark Tower series
The Vampire Chronicles


Assuming by The Vampire Chronicles you mean the Anne Rice Books, I'd recommend these - at least the first several books.

At her best in this series, in particular in the first couple of books, the writing transcends fantasy and can stand up with any literature. The parts dealing with Louis' and Lestat's lives before they became vampires are especially well done. Same with Armand and some of the other characters.

Even when the series doesn't reach these lofty heights, it is still good fantasy reading.

That's my view on the books anyway.
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:02 pm to
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starting lestat today


I've only read the first two VCs but I have QotD hardback, just haven't gotten around to it. There's two consignment book stores here in Tuscaloosa and I normally go in there and get books for $2 dollars and that's where I found QotD. That being said, next time anyone is in Tuscaloosa go by those places and load up. One is at the public library and the other is called The Book Rack, you'll find thy on 15th street. The latter has more fantasy so ... Just be careful you'll end up spending two hours in each.
Posted by Amblin
Member since Sep 2011
2569 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 2:49 pm to
The Kingdoms of Thorn and Bone by Greg Keyes.

First book: The Briar King

Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:19 pm to
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Only major problem that I've seen that I didn't like about Gardens (which I thought was a fun read and is why I'm continuing) that continues is, everyone grunts when they speak. I almost want to send a video to Erikson showing what people sound like in a literal sense when they grunt. Sorry but I don't know anyone that goes around grunting when they speak.


What bothers me most about Erikson is that everything is described as "ochre." I'm aware that a good portion of the first few books is set in a desert but my god describe the terrain some other way.
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:52 pm to
I highly recommend the Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson:

Way of Kings
Words of Radiance
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22193 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 2:56 pm to
Have you read the Dune series? I don't mean to restart the whole sci-fi vs. fantasy argument but Herbert touches all of fantasy's thematic mainstays. And does it very, very well .
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 5:00 pm to
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The Dark Tower series by Stephen King is a must read, especially seeing the other books on your list. 7 in all. It bridges every other book Stephen King has written - this is his professed magnum opus and took him some 30 years to complete them all. Just stop reading in the 7th book when he tells you to.


Can you enjoy Dark Tower if you haven't read any of King's other books? Or is there a list of recommended books to read first that would allow you to fully appreciate Dark Tower?
Posted by CrazyCrawfish
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 5:40 pm to
roma or empire by steven saylor
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 6:49 pm to
Read the Chronicles of the Black Company by Glen Cook.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8586 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 8:27 pm to
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i heard the acts of Cain was good
or the Black company




The Caine books by Stover are superb, can be difficult to find the second book though. Cook's Black Company series is very good as well.
This post was edited on 12/25/14 at 8:29 pm
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 10:08 pm to
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Can you enjoy Dark Tower if you haven't read any of King's other books? Or is there a list of recommended books to read first that would allow you to fully appreciate Dark Tower?



I'm on book 2 and don't feel like I'm missing anything. Most of the advice I got was that it doesn't matter but some people suggested reading The Stand before book 3 or 4 (can't remember) so that you know more about Randall Flagg.

I plan on reading The Stand after I finish this series though, then on to Sanderson's The Way of the King
Posted by thekid
Anna, Tx
Member since May 2006
3937 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 10:54 pm to
The Dune series in my opinion is the GOAT...you need to read it all the way through. Song of Fire and Ice is my #2...although he needs to f-ing finish
I prefer the Sword of truth over wheel of time. I was reading WOT while it was being written and the gaps were a pain in the arse.
Posted by El Guapo21
Tuscaloosa
Member since Feb 2008
744 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 1:24 am to
Late to the party here, but The Wheel of Time is a good read, but at times it gets really stale!

That being said, my favorite book character of all time comes from the series... I also have 2, actually 3, WoT tattoos.

Total nerd.

You can read at your own pace from one book to the next. Don't go from one to the next to the next; it will overwhelm you!
Posted by OhFace55
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
7040 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 4:54 am to
I read the sword of truth series. It was a fun read. Reads easy with some great detail. Very easy to imagine the settings and characters.
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