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Posted on 10/31/18 at 3:42 pm to TheCaterpillar
Yeah that's what I was thinking too 
Posted on 10/31/18 at 3:54 pm to RollTide1987
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.but it wouldn’t have been what Freddie wanted. He kept his private life private for a reason. He would have wanted a film that celebrated his music - which is what this film reportedly does.
No one knows what he would have wanted, society has come a long way since he died and his reasons for wanting to be very private might not exist anymore. He very could have decided to be as open as possible, since people would be more accepting, or even use his own experience to help others.
and also, who gives a shite. hes dead, his life has been documented and commented on for years, and hes a massive figure in rock and roll history and also a pivotal character in the AIDS story.
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Freddie Mercury, spoiler alert, doesn’t die in this movie.
like, seriously. then why even make a Queen movie if not just to remind everyone how awesome you used to be and hopefully sell some records.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 3:55 pm to The Godfather
Not sure why they need to take a Sid & Nancy crap on Mercury and the band for us to have an entertaining movie. I don't need to see a detailed view of him contracting AIDS to understand that he died from it.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:41 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Not sure why they need to take a Sid & Nancy crap on Mercury and the band for us to have an entertaining movie. I don't need to see a detailed view of him contracting AIDS to understand that he died from it.
No one said you had to take a crap on Mercury and the band.
The fact that you think portraying reality is taking a crap says quite a bit about you.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 4:45 pm to FightnBobLafollette
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The fact that you think portraying reality is taking a crap says quite a bit about you.
Guess I need to take a good long look at myself. Thanks for the insight man.
So do you think First Man would've been better if they had spent time on his first failed marriage? Or on the successful Gemini flights leading up to the Apollo missions?
Posted on 10/31/18 at 7:29 pm to cigsmcgee
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No one knows what he would have wanted, society has come a long way since he died and his reasons for wanting to be very private might not exist anymore.
Mercury was a private person even before he knew he was gay. The man was just a natural introvert who transformed into a different person when he went on stage. He even kept his private life from his band mates a lot of the time.
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and also, who gives a shite. hes dead, his life has been documented and commented on for years, and hes a massive figure in rock and roll history and also a pivotal character in the AIDS story.
Apparently his surviving band mates care because they were the ones who have been trying to get this story out there. And it’s very difficult to call Freddie Mercury a pivotal player in the AIDS story when you consider he didn’t come out with the disease until the day before he died.
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then why even make a Queen movie if not just to remind everyone how awesome you used to be
You just answered your own question.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:12 pm to RollTide1987
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And it’s very difficult to call Freddie Mercury a pivotal player in the AIDS story when you consider he didn’t come out with the disease until the day before he died.
absolute nonsense.
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Mercury was a private person even before he knew he was gay. The man was just a natural introvert who transformed into a different person when he went on stage. He even kept his private life from his band mates a lot of the time.
his life isnt a secret, there are tell alls and documentaries. no reason it should be taboo. so why make a movie at all if not to tell a real story? well....
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You just answered your own question.
right, so i dont really understand why we're shitting on the fact that some people would like to see some honesty and weight into movies about famous people, instead of "sanctimonious stories about the genius of rock stars."
Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:38 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Guess I need to take a good long look at myself. Thanks for the insight man.
So do you think First Man would've been better if they had spent time on his first failed marriage? Or on the successful Gemini flights leading up to the Apollo missions?
Lol watching you move the goalposts.
If it was a bio about the person then it aint crapping on him. The truth ain’t crapping.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:04 am to cigsmcgee
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so i can only assume this movie is prob a lazy puff piece.
This seems likely from the trailer.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:33 am to cigsmcgee
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absolute nonsense.
How so?
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his life isnt a secret, there are tell alls and documentaries. no reason it should be taboo. so why make a movie at all if not to tell a real story? well....
And from everything I've read, this film touches on all of those aspects. Sacha Baron Cohen must have had a different draft of the script, because this movie is nothing like what he described several years ago on the Howard Stern show.
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right, so i dont really understand why we're shitting on the fact that some people would like to see some honesty and weight into movies about famous people, instead of "sanctimonious stories about the genius of rock stars."
The only people who are interested in the story you are looking for are movie critics and hard core fans of film. Personally, I couldn't care less about a film set in the late-80s/early-90s that did nothing but tell us about Freddie Mercury's struggle with HIV/AIDS. That's what SBC wanted. He wanted a dark, gritty story about Mercury's final years. That's fine. But as a fan of Freddie Mercury and of Queen, I'd rather see what we're getting with this movie. AIDS may have ultimately killed the man but it sure as hell didn't come to define him. His music did.
And there's no guarantee that the darker and grittier route would have been successful. So if it turns out to be a critical flop, all you have is a film that is dark, depressing, and leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth. At least with the more upbeat film you get a crowd pleaser that might even have good replay value.
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:58 am to RollTide1987
You are a fan of Mercury and Queen. You want Rock Star. Lol
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:33 am to RollTide1987
To anyone interested, if you have Amazon Music, the soundtrack is on there free as of this morning.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:42 am to RollTide1987
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How so?
91 was a crucial year for AIDs awareness, Freddie was a global superstar and Magic Johnson was straight. Those two cases made aids something more than an underground niche disease. Epidemics take alot of factors to get under control, but having people talk about the disease and admit it exists is a must.
So even tho Freddie wasnt leading the AIDs fight in the 80s, his death affected the way alot people thought about the disease.
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Personally, I couldn't care less about a film set in the late-80s/early-90s that did nothing but tell us about Freddie Mercury's struggle with HIV/AIDS. That's what SBC wanted.
From what i understand, Cohen wanted to use Freddies last days as a framing device around the larger story. I think youre prob overplaying the grimness and darkness here to help youre argument, when in reality the movie would have dealt with heavy themes, sure, but its not like SBC was looking to make Salo' II.
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And there's no guarantee that the darker and grittier route would have been successful
Very true. Art should never take chances, cause who knows if itd make millions of dollars! Playing it safe is just good business, and exactly the legacy Queen and Freddie Mercury left behind.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:30 am to VOR
My prediction is that no matter what faults the film has, there will be people claiming that Borat would've done the exact opposite.
We're looking forward to it. Tickets for tomorrow night in hand.
We're looking forward to it. Tickets for tomorrow night in hand.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:12 am to lsutigersFTW
I agree. PG 13 likely will result in a watered down movie, but I still plan on giving it a shot. I hope the performance footage is well done.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:15 am to Jamohn
Malekseems like a good choice to me, and to the poster who asked about height, I never thought of Mercury as a very big guy.
Malek is 5’ 9”
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:20 am to lsu480
The source I found said Freddy was 5’9 1/2”
Actually, it doesn’t much matter, imo.
Actually, it doesn’t much matter, imo.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:22 am to Bamadiver
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I said: ‘Listen, not one person is going to see a movie where the lead character dies from Aids and then you see how the band carries on.’
SBC is absolutely right.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:30 am to KiwiHead
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I said: ‘Listen, not one person is going to see a movie where the lead character dies from Aids and then you see how the band carries on.’
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SBC is absolutely right.
And from every plot synopsis that I've read, that's not what the movie is.
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