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Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:05 pm to
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Honestly I don’t mind a dirty game cause of Dan but I agree with you. The PC stuff needs to go

I'm all for dirty games too, but when you pull something that has real world implications of labeling someone as a racist to the public then I think you've gone too far.

Btw, Michael and Brittany met this morning with Monte & Taylor and told them. The feeds cut from the conversation so we don't know everything that was said, but I'm sure it went about like we figured it would. Kyle and Alyssa know there was a meeting, but they don't know what it's about yet.

ETA: I just saw where Michael and Brit told Alyssa about it also.
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 2:08 pm
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:18 pm to
Here is the twitter updates on the Michael/Brit/Alyssa conversation:

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Michael to Alyssa- He (Kyle) brings up the Cookout. He is like "they had this unifying goal", basically saying the people of colour in the game have a unifying goal and are closer with the other people of colour in the game, and they are going to turn on us #BB24

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Michael to Alyssa- Without saying the five white people need to stick together, he (Kyle) is saying us five need to stick together without putting that label on it. It was very clear the insinuation #BB24

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Brittany to Alyssa- I dont think he (Kyle) is being malicious, I dont think he is aware of the things he is saying as coming off that way. We dont want this to be construed that we are using this for game #BB24

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Brittany to Alyssa- I said to Kyle "we cannot assume there is some sort of Cookout just cause the Cookout happened last year. Are you looking at these groups you are proposing?". I expect him to be like "shite, I didnt see it". That wasnt the answer. It was doubling down #BB24

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Alyssa- I would not have put them (Joseph/Monte/Taylor) together in a group by any means by who they are or anything like that. Brittany- I think he (Kyle) thought we were more on board with his plan, and it has been hard kind of being in the middle #BB24

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Brittany- If you watched back the season and realized you were inadvertently in a white alliance...you deserve to know that those conversations were had. Alyssa- That's not something that I would want to be a part of at all. I want to make that very clear #BB24

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Alyssa- Are you guys planning on having a conversation with him (Kyle) directly? Or did you with Monte and Taylor? Is that why you guys were up here? Michael- I am going to be straight up with you, I want to see Kyle leave this week. I'm going to talk to Turner about this #BB24

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Michael to Alyssa- I understand that he (Kyle) is presenting it within a game context but for me it goes beyond game. I am not comfortable being a part of it #BB24

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Alyssa- I hope that whatever decisions and conversations he (Kyle) has with you doesnt fall on me. Michael- No. He always said he had you and Turner. I thought he is probably not having to make this pitch. Alyssa- He never did #BB24

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Michael to Alyssa/Brittany- Even if I won the game, I would regret being like I was part of that...even if it looked like I was. With the success of the Cookout, I was like I hope there isnt anybody that tries to rally the white people together #BB24

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Michael to Alyssa- I dont think there is malicious intent or his goal coming in was to make sure a white person wins, but I dont know if he got in his head about seeing who is left in the game. It was the assumptions about all of the people of colour #BB24

Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:25 pm to
Kyle needs to call a house meeting and hit back in the hardest way possible.

Ask Michael when this conversation took place and why he held it under his breath so long and stayed complicit and played in an alliance with somebody you’re calling racist.
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:33 pm to
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We dont want this to be construed that we are using this for game

Sure.

Brittany and Michael know Kyle wasn’t trying to form a racist alliance. They are leveraging racism and the threat of being the target of the woke mob to get Alyssa and Turner to turn on Kyle. That has to be the worst level of game play.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16257 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:39 pm to
Yeah, they say they don't want this being construed as them using it for game and they didn't think Kyle had malicious intent, yet they say that he needs to leave the game for it.

I agree with fightingtigers98, Kyle is going to have to call a house meeting and defend himself to everyone now.
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:45 pm to
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Kyle needs to call a house meeting and hit back in the hardest way possible.

Ask Michael when this conversation took place and why he held it under his breath so long and stayed complicit and played in an alliance with somebody you’re calling racist.



100%


They haven’t had a big house meeting blow up in a long time, and this is exactly the type of situation that calls for it.


Turn the tables on them and say you doing this is actually trying to manipulate the POC because one of you is going home.


The two of them had ALL WEEK inside with just Monte and Taylor and never said a thing about it, in fact they were all in support of the LOs going to the end until Turner put them up.


Kyle is screwed either way with the Twitterbaters outside the house but he needs to say all of this on the record and force CBSs hand to show the confrontation because this meeting should define the whole week and the rest of the season.

Can’t let the narrative be set in one on ones.
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 2:50 pm
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13303 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:48 pm to
I’d add into besides just trying to manipulate people based on your race, you’re also showing yourself to be a hypocrite if you take Brittany off the block instead of Taylor.

This could be so easily turned on Michael.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/28/22 at 2:51 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/3/23 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Miganey
Austin, Tx
Member since Feb 2013
3837 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 3:23 pm to
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you are a straight white dude, you have to be a fricking moron to sign up for this show.


No kidding; glad I never got picked and not just bc of that either.. think about the crazies talking about burning down turners shop too. Not here for that ish
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115476 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 3:23 pm to
White player manipulates POC players with false racism charges.

Yeah...this is gameplay.

If there's any justice, this blows up in Michael's face.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/28/22 at 3:39 pm to
12 Months Ago: Alliance formed by black people strictly on the basis of race.

Twitter: “So brave! We <3 the cookout”

Two Weeks Ago: Taylor - “I will not nominate a black woman.”

Twitter: You go girl! So brave and stunning!

Two weeks ago: BB invites main member of the cookout who jokes about how it was the best alliance ever.

Twitter: Woooooo!! Tiffany is the goat! Remember how great the cookout was??

…..

Kyle: Hey guys, do you think there is a chance the black people might team up to take us out?

Twitter: You piece of shite, I hope your life is ruined and that you die.
Posted by Miganey
Austin, Tx
Member since Feb 2013
3837 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by HHS7
Member since Jul 2017
371 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 4:07 pm to
I almost posted something very similar. The double standard is strong.

I’ve been wanting Michael to win this whole time. However, the chaos he can potentially cause over embellishing is just too much for “today’s” game.

Someone said he could be looked at as a hero for exposing how he wouldn’t “be apart of something like that” therefore helping him gain votes…this may be true in the eyes of the players in the house that have no clue…..but a part of what? A rational thought based on events of last year? Ridiculous. Everyone is saying it wasn’t obvious last year, but hell even the more reason for it to be a viable possibility this year!

Kyle was simply thinking of ALL possibilities…something you should absolutely be doing while playing BB …..not realizing that sharing it out loud with people would cause him to be labeled as a racist. (Again ridiculous) But it’s smart game play thinking to me. Right or wrong, considering what happened last year, one would be a complete fool to not at the very least have it cross your mind.
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 4:25 pm
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 8/28/22 at 4:19 pm to
I hope Michael gets monkeypox
Posted by HHS7
Member since Jul 2017
371 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 4:29 pm to
And since I didn’t get to comment during the eviction, I’m so glad Jasmine’s cornbread, limping fake arse is out of the house!
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16257 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 4:29 pm to
Alyssa finally told Kyle, but she didn't tell him immediately like you would think someone who has talked about marrying the guy would want to do (I'm sure she is scared of being labeled a racist as well).

Here is the Twitter updates of the conversation:

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Kyle to Alyssa- Can I chat with you? I feel so alone right now. I dont know what's going on. I dont know what to do with myself #BB24

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Kyle- What do you think they (Brittany/Michael) are saying to him (Turner)? Alyssa- I dont know. I have no idea #BB24

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Kyle- Did they talk about mine and their conversations about splitting up the Leftovers and joining you and Turner at all? Alyssa- Yeah. Yeah, they did #BB24

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Kyle- Is there anything else? Alyssa- I just dont know if it's my place to say that. Kyle- What? Alyssa- They pretty much made it seem like you were working against other people in the house...like not giving Monte, Taylor, Joseph a fair shot at working with them #BB24

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Kyle- So a race thing is what they are pitching I was saying? Alyssa- Not necessarily saying but... Kyle- This is bigger than game. This will ruin my life if this is what they are pitching. I will leave the game if this is what they are pitching #BB24

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Kyle- Do you believe that? Alyssa- No. Kyle- At what point have I ever made this a race thing? This is life changing if this is their pitch #BB24

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Kyle- What do I do? That's not true at all. The only thing I said is their reasons for being on this show are strong, like Joseph with his mom, Taylor fighting for women. What do I do? Alyssa- Talk to them. Kyle- They are up with Turner, they already pitched it to Monte #BB24

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Kyle to Alyssa- They are telling everybody this except for me, painting me as a racist. I am going to leave the game #BB24

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Alyssa- Dont freak out. Kyle- What do you mean? They are calling me a racist, saying I wanted to start an all white thing. Alyssa- No, that's not what they were saying directly #BB24

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Kyle- Then what are they saying? That I didnt want to work with them because of their skin colour? Alyssa- No. I dont think so. All they said was that you brought to their attention that you wouldnt want a Cookout thing to form #BB24
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14072 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 4:29 pm to
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Monte to Terrance- It makes sense cause he hears Taylor doesnt want to put Jasmine up as a black woman, he heard that I wanted to work with Ameerah cause I respected the fact that she was a strong black woman. When I knew you were targeting me, I didnt want to put you up #BB24


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Monte to Terrance- I think all of that made him believe that there was an all black alliance. He was trying to get the other side of the house together #BB24


At least Monte seems to be thinking rational.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16257 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 4:38 pm to
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At least Monte seems to be thinking rational.

I would hold off on that until we see how he reacts when he talks with Kyle. Him & Terrence are talking with Alyssa right now, and they don't sound so pleased with Kyle at the moment.

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Monte to Alyssa- I dont see any of that in you at all. Hearing all of this this morning got me very frustrated and very angry. I have looked at the whole scenario and how he has operated from the start #BB24

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Monte to Alyssa- They would have to stoop very low to make this up. I saw his reaction when Taylor said "I dont want to put up a black woman" #BB24

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Monte to Alyssa- Apparently to throw me under the bus...you know me and Ameerah had conversations about me wanting to work with her cause she is a strong black woman. Monte- He used that against me to say me, Terrance, Taylor, Jasmine and Joseph were working together to form an all black alliance. Alyssa- I never heard that #BB24

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Alyssa to Monte/Terrance- I never had that conversation with him. I felt I knew him well enough as a person to not want that. That makes me really sad for him. I hope he can give you a better reason or more clarity that that's not the truth. Monte- I hope it's not either #BB24

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Monte- To hear this, it makes sense why he was targeting Joseph. Alyssa- He told me he was going to tell you (Terrance) about the Leftovers because otherwise it would be me and him up there #BB24

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Terrance to Alyssa/Monte- It definitely hurts to hear this conversation, especially after a lot has happened progressively in the world to try to not make colour lines #BB24

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Terrance- To hear this is malicious to me. To say we are going to get all the black people out of the way, or people of colour out of the way... Alyssa- I dont see him saying. That is a horrible horrible...the worst thing to possibly say. Maybe he did. I have no idea #BB24


Kyle is going to have to have a house meeting to even try to explain this to everyone, and even then he might not be able to.
Posted by HHS7
Member since Jul 2017
371 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 4:38 pm to
Sounds like to me Kyle has obviously figured out what is going on. He keeps asking what do I do? It’s definitely not a convo you want to have but as already suggested, a House meeting needs to happen. It’s Kyle’s only hope at this point.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16257 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 4:43 pm to
And here are Turner's thoughts on it that he said during a camera talk just now:

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Turner to camera- My head is spinning. I could never have thought someone could convince me that Kyle might not be best for my game. Michael convinced me but that's what Michael does. He convinces people of things #BB24

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Turner- Kyle might end up on the block this week now. Taylor is still my target but damn they are good at this game. Did I hear them say an all white alliance is what Kyle is pitching? That's weird and suspicious. I dont like that. I hate that actually #BB24

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Turner- You dont say that unless you want to be cancelled up the arse. I dont think that was a lie, actually. If they said that and it wasnt true and they were pitching someone said an all white alliance...you dont do that #BB24

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Turner- If Kyle was pitching that with my name involved, what the hell? I dont want any part in that. Taylor is still worse for my game even with that weird alliance in Kyle's mouth. I still want Taylor to go home but I still might put Kyle up so I can be good with them #BB24

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