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Posted on 8/14/22 at 6:49 am to JDPndahizzy
Once Kyle won the veto, the rest of the LOs have changed their mind once again and now want to back door Alyssa. This is the second time that they will be asking him to use (or not use) the veto in a way to back door her.
It’ll be interesting to see if he ends up doing it this time since they’ve grown closer over the past couple of weeks.
It’ll be interesting to see if he ends up doing it this time since they’ve grown closer over the past couple of weeks.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:26 am to Obtuse1
Kyle should not use the veto and get Indy/Terrance out. I don't care who leaves of those two, but Indy adds nothing to this game. It makes me mad that they find people like her, people who have hardly seen the show, and they pass on more people like Michael who live to be on this show.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:36 pm to Obtuse1
S8 was really out of control and incredible
Posted on 8/14/22 at 2:59 pm to jefforize
I have issues with Taylor saying she does not want to put up Jasmine because she is a black woman. That is something that was settled last season, and I don't like race-based decisions to be a part of this game. This needs to be eliminated from the show.
Kyle had a point about another Cookout forming. I'm not seeing anyone of color go, but what's getting to me is now I'm hearing people like Taylor say she won't nominate a black woman.
Kyle had a point about another Cookout forming. I'm not seeing anyone of color go, but what's getting to me is now I'm hearing people like Taylor say she won't nominate a black woman.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:28 pm to schwartzy
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Kyle should not use the veto and get Indy/Terrance out.
I would be shocked if he did. Alyssa told Turner that they had sex yesterday, so I would be shocked if he knowingly allowed her to get backdoored right after that.
But Taylor is going to try to push it hard. Taylor even told Michael and Joseph that she was going to basically "threaten" him by saying that him looking like he's defending Alyssa will give the LOs a reason to target him when it gets down to the seven.
This should be an interesting battle.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:38 pm to Bamatab
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so I would be shocked if he knowingly allowed her to get backdoored right after that
No backdoor after the backdoor...
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:47 pm to udtiger
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No backdoor after the backdoor...
I doubt any backdoor action happened, but apparently is was period sex...on a butterfly pool floatie...in a dark & dingy have-not room that looks basically like a dungeon.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:26 pm to JDPndahizzy
Nice edit by CBS to show her saying it 6 times
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:18 pm to JDPndahizzy
I think Kyle is legit done with the LOs, and ready to fire the first shot of the civil war...and they haven't even had the LOs meeting where Taylor, Joseph and Monte are going to try to strongarm him into backdooring Alyssa.
Today he basically told Michael and Brittany about the Pound without calling out the name. They told him they back his decision to not use the veto, and that they are down with working with him and Alyssa when the civil war breaks out. Michael and Brittany hinted to Alyssa that Kyle is getting pressure to use the veto and that Alyssa would be the target. Then Kyle told Alyssa that she has to trust him, and that he'll have to distance himself from her tonight and tomorrow before the veto ceremony so that he can assure she doesn't go up. He also told her he is setting up a path for them to go forward together in the game, and that she can't say anything to anyone. I'm not sure what is going through her mind during all of this, but she agreed and said she trusted him.
I expect that when the LOs do end up meeting tonight, that Kyle will be having none of the strong-arming to backdooring Alyssa. This will probably sketch Taylor, Joseph and Monte out. Michael and Brittany seem to be on board with Kyle not using the veto knowing how Kyle really thinks. Turner is also ok with Kyle not using the veto, but he doesn't know that Kyle is about to start a civil war.
Today he basically told Michael and Brittany about the Pound without calling out the name. They told him they back his decision to not use the veto, and that they are down with working with him and Alyssa when the civil war breaks out. Michael and Brittany hinted to Alyssa that Kyle is getting pressure to use the veto and that Alyssa would be the target. Then Kyle told Alyssa that she has to trust him, and that he'll have to distance himself from her tonight and tomorrow before the veto ceremony so that he can assure she doesn't go up. He also told her he is setting up a path for them to go forward together in the game, and that she can't say anything to anyone. I'm not sure what is going through her mind during all of this, but she agreed and said she trusted him.
I expect that when the LOs do end up meeting tonight, that Kyle will be having none of the strong-arming to backdooring Alyssa. This will probably sketch Taylor, Joseph and Monte out. Michael and Brittany seem to be on board with Kyle not using the veto knowing how Kyle really thinks. Turner is also ok with Kyle not using the veto, but he doesn't know that Kyle is about to start a civil war.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:36 pm to Bamatab
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But Taylor is going to try to push it hard. Taylor even told Michael and Joseph that she was going to basically "threaten" him by saying that him looking like he's defending Alyssa will give the LOs a reason to target him when it gets down to the seven.
This should be an interesting battle.
Man, I’ve enjoyed the LOs but honestly frick them if they’re going to try to pressure him to personally backdoor a girl he’s legit dating at this point right now.
It’s way too early to be demanding that kind of loyalty when there are zeroes like Indy, Terrance, and fricking Jasmine still around.
It would be one thing if Kyle didn’t win it and they were like hey we’re using veto to take her out, but “threatening” him to personally use the veto knowing she’s getting blindsided is fricking lame of them and I would hope the outside world would shame them for trying to embarrass Alyssa in that way.
Eventually yeah he’ll have to do it, and I actually think he would. Same way Tyler was going to stick with Kaycee over Angela at the end, but not fricking pre-jury.
I hope Kyle tells them to frick off, doesn’t use it, then wins HOH and puts two of them up next week.
Game on.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:38 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Today he basically told Michael and Brittany about the Pound without calling out the name. They told him they back his decision to not use the veto, and that they are down with working with him and Alyssa when the civil war breaks out.
Ok good.
I posted my previous post before I read yours, so glad to see Michael and Brittney aren’t going that direction.
They really should have taken Monte out last week when they had the chance. It was always going this direction, no need to delay the inevitable.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:05 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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They really should have taken Monte out last week when they had the chance. It was always going this direction, no need to delay the inevitable.
Yeah, but Brittany and Michael got cold feet and were hesitant to take the first shot.
I am kind of interested at how much they actually back Kyle whenever this meeting happens. Normally in these LO meetings it's Joseph talking over everyone and Monte & Taylor with be backing him unconditionally. Michael and Brittany have never really shown to be very confrontational (for a lack of a better term) in these meetings. I'm expecting them to just say in a wishy-washy way that they are ok either way while Kyle tries to make his stand.
I am starting to wonder if making this stand is really best for his game with how set Taylor, Joseph and Monte are with this. I mean, there is no way they should be asking Kyle to do this with 3 other option available, and 2 already sitting on the block. But he was sitting in the best spot in the alliance between the Pound and Michael/Brittany. So this is definitely going to move him out of that middle spot and right into the firing line.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:48 pm to Bamatab
Kyle and Taylor are having a one on one, and Kyle is crushing it. He is calm, and clearing explaining the situation and laying out his arguments, and she has no rebuttal. He is great in one on one conversations.
I'm not sure if I'll be able to stay up for a group LO meeting if one happens, but there's no way they can justify forcing him to use the veto if he uses this argument.
I'm not sure if I'll be able to stay up for a group LO meeting if one happens, but there's no way they can justify forcing him to use the veto if he uses this argument.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:55 pm to Bamatab
Yeah I just glanced at it and he crushed it.
Comparing his loyalty to Alyssa AT THIS POINT is the same as Taylor’s loyalty to Jasmine.
He says they would both choose the LOs when the time comes but right now there are three other options and he has personal reasons to want both Terrence (he voted to evict him last week) and Indy (just hates her lol) gone.
He really is damn good in one on one’s very similar to Tyler.
Joseph seems to be Taylor’s biggest supporter of getting Alyssa out from what I can tell. Turner says get Indy out and Monte Michael and Brittany all told Taylor they’re indifferent if Kyle accepts the blowback for not using it from Indy and Terrence they are fine with it (although Michael and Brittney would have supported Kyle against Taylor if it came to it I think but things had already been kind of agreed on by the time they came in).
This split house twist next week is going to be very interesting, it’s coming at a pivotal moment in the game too. I have a feeling at least one LO will be gone and it will be at he hand of another LO.
I wonder if Taylor can compete for HOH?
This seems to be the most relevant part of the convo (as always read from bottom to top):
That was sort of his recap of his feelings on it once the LOs came in after he and Taylor had already talked one on one.
Comparing his loyalty to Alyssa AT THIS POINT is the same as Taylor’s loyalty to Jasmine.
He says they would both choose the LOs when the time comes but right now there are three other options and he has personal reasons to want both Terrence (he voted to evict him last week) and Indy (just hates her lol) gone.
He really is damn good in one on one’s very similar to Tyler.
Joseph seems to be Taylor’s biggest supporter of getting Alyssa out from what I can tell. Turner says get Indy out and Monte Michael and Brittany all told Taylor they’re indifferent if Kyle accepts the blowback for not using it from Indy and Terrence they are fine with it (although Michael and Brittney would have supported Kyle against Taylor if it came to it I think but things had already been kind of agreed on by the time they came in).
This split house twist next week is going to be very interesting, it’s coming at a pivotal moment in the game too. I have a feeling at least one LO will be gone and it will be at he hand of another LO.
I wonder if Taylor can compete for HOH?
This seems to be the most relevant part of the convo (as always read from bottom to top):
quote:
Sun 8:45 PM PT Kyle says he's fine getting the blow back and doesn't see him getting Jasmine, Indy and Terrance's jury vote anyway. Taylor says she's not getting their votes either and Kyle admits Indy and Jasmine maybe not. NT - HumanFrailty
Sun 8:44 PM PT Kyle says when there's 4 who want to get out Indy and 3 who are indifferent he doesn't feel like using the veto. Kyle makes it clear that he doesn't want to use the veto and will take all the blame for not using it. NT - HumanFrailty
Sun 8:42 PM PT Kyle says Jasmine could have just as easily taken the veto but took the reward as well so the reasoning against Alyssa applies to her as well. NT - HumanFrailty
Sun 8:41 PM PT Kyle says when they have 4 options for it to be him to use the veto and backdoor Alyssa doesn't feel right to him. He says its like Taylor not wanting to put up Jasmine and they both would be fine getting rid of them when it comes down to 2. Kyle further says they don't really need a good reason to get Alyssa out later on and she will be fine when the time comes to leave.
Sun 8:40 PM PT Kyle says Jasmine in contrast to Alyssa has made moves against like Monte and Terrance was the one vote against him. He says he saved Indy and she didn't express much gratitude. NT - HumanFrailty
That was sort of his recap of his feelings on it once the LOs came in after he and Taylor had already talked one on one.
This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 12:04 am
Posted on 8/15/22 at 6:52 am to schwartzy
yep, again with the racial shite. making decisions solely based on race is racist in itself. And even if one doesn't consider it racist, it's foolish in the least. So, you're willing to sacrifice your game to not nominate a black woman who is clearly not on your side? Foolish!
Honestly, I didn't even know Jasmine was black.
and the other players with the "i respect that". Would anyone respect a white person for refusing to nominate white person?
Taylor might be one of the worst HOHs ever when it comes to decision making.
T: i'm going to put up these 2
Allies but, what if this happens? oh yeah, that's not gonna work
T: ok well i'll put up those 2
Allies: but, what if this happens? oh yeah that won't work either.
Honestly, I didn't even know Jasmine was black.
and the other players with the "i respect that". Would anyone respect a white person for refusing to nominate white person?
Taylor might be one of the worst HOHs ever when it comes to decision making.
T: i'm going to put up these 2
Allies but, what if this happens? oh yeah, that's not gonna work
T: ok well i'll put up those 2
Allies: but, what if this happens? oh yeah that won't work either.
This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 7:52 am
Posted on 8/15/22 at 7:24 am to Tiger Voodoo
I woke up at 7:00 (5:00 BBT) and Taylor is out in the backyard with Joseph sulking and whining because she didn't get her way. Apparently she's been sulking all night/morning. 
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:18 am to Bamatab
Taylor wanted to do an 'epic renom speech.
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