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re: Big Brother 19 - Season Long Thread

Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:50 am to
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:50 am to
I don't get the love on sites like Jokers for Jessica and Cody. Is it just because they're the underdogs and keeping them will lead to more drama, or are they genuinely likable to people?
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 9:50 am
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16253 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:51 am to
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And also for Christmas screaming at Matt cuz he said "we probably shouldn't mess with someone who's killed people" before?

For someone who makes a portion of their money doing public speaking/motivational speaking, she may have just hurt her chances of doing that going forward once she is out of this game.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32013 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:51 am to
The funny thing is that he's been getting the best edit of anyone. That has to change come Thursday. I wish Julie would address it. Sometimes production has no choice but to acknowledge it based off of backlash.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:52 am to
Yeah I don't really know who you put up against Paul right now to get him out. I'd probably say Kevin. Everyone seems to like him, but I also think Jess really likes him so I don't see them putting him up if one of them wins. Maybe Matt?

Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16253 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:55 am to
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I don't get the love on sites like Jokers for Jessica and Cody. Is it just because they're the underdogs and keeping them will lead to more drama, or are they genuinely likable to people?

Because the rest of the houseguest are being such a'holes. It started out being that the Jokers site liked Jess because she was the best chance at going after Paul. But now it's because of how freaking disgusting Paul is being with him leading this crazy mob mentality trying to make Cody's and Jess' lives a living hell in the house.
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
11768 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:59 am to
If you've watched the feeds, they've been pretty despicable towards Jess and Cody. I also feel like they're likable people, at the very least in comparison to everyone else. I think probably most of the favorable voting for them, however, is because people want to tank Paul and his closest allies rankings. There have been several times where Cody was being berated and I was just like, damn, this poor guy, he obviously is thinking "I didn't sign up for this".

Cody is also getting framed by Paul and Kevin for putting vaseline on Josh's stuff and Paul walks around saying..."This is a game and all, but don't touch anyone's shite" in a very holier than thou attitude.
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 10:01 am
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32013 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:00 am to
Yep. Cody pulled Jess outside to get her away from the confrontation with Paul, Raven and Alex. Paul encouraged everyone to follow them because "that's the reason you all aren't going to jury. Your boy tried to help assure it but Jess didn't want that."

The next two hours Paul, Raven, Alex and Josh yelled across the backyard at them while Jess/Cody said and did nothing. If you haven't seen it, it's bad and uncomfortable.
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Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
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11768 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:04 am to
Christmas - they can try hard, but fact is, in 2 weeks, they'll both be gone.

Ok dummy, you do realize that it's not the final 8 win $500k each right? Not to mention, they are eligible to play in the HOH. These people have zero logic or forward thinking. They're so consumed with just getting them two out, not one of them is thinking about making a move for their game post Jody. I've seen no one talk game about "ok, lets start a secret alliance sans Paul." Just baffling to me. Equally baffling is the "now no one is guaranteed jury". Why should they just lay down so you can make it to jury?
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 10:06 am
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
16021 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:04 am to
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Yeah I don't really know who you put up against Paul right now to get him out. I'd probably say Kevin. Everyone seems to like him, but I also think Jess really likes him so I don't see them putting him up if one of them wins. Maybe Matt?


I was trying to figure this out last night too.

My initial thought was Kevin as well because everybody likes him, but I'm not sure that would mean everybody would vote for him to stay and I'm not sure how effective he would be trying to get votes while on the block.

Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32013 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:10 am to
Paul knows Kevin took the $25k at the beginning of the game. If they're on the block together, that's coming out.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
25204 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:10 am to
IMO best bet to get Paul out would be putting him up next to Matt or Raven.

Matt has shown that he isn't scared to backstab. Dude has SOOOOOO much information on Paul that it is insane. I would LOVE to see him campaign against Paul.
Posted by Happygilmore
Happy Place
Member since Mar 2009
1835 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:12 am to
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I was trying to figure this out last night too.


gotta put up alex and hope that matt raven or christmas go up as the third.

jess/cody (whoever isnt HOH)
mark
elena
jason - wont go against alex
kevin-i think can be convinved to get rid of paul

thats five, even if you can get 4 with a third nom up there the HOH will choose who is evicted.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:17 am to
Kevin's a bit of a wild card vote. He's pretty much done what Paul has told him to do all season, but he's also formed a little bit of a bond with Jess.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49887 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:25 am to
If Paul is on the block and he doesn't get voted out, then they should just cut the lights and cancel the rest of the season. That would be one of the dumbest moves ever.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14048 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:29 am to
I don't particularly like Jessica or Cody, it's just that I HATE Paul, Raven, and Josh.

Kevin may be the only likable person in the whole house. Maybe Jason, maybe.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16253 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:36 am to
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Yeah I don't really know who you put up against Paul right now to get him out. I'd probably say Kevin. Everyone seems to like him, but I also think Jess really likes him so I don't see them putting him up if one of them wins. Maybe Matt?

If the Temptation Comp loser stays up after veto, then you have 8 people voting. If they come down, then you have 9 people voting. I don't think that there is any way at all for Paul to go home if the 3rd nom stays up just because it give another option for people not to place a vote to evict Paul. And while the house likes Kevin, they don't like him near enough to keep him over Paul. Even Alex, Jason, and Josh would vote Kevin out over Paul.

So say the third nom comes down and Cody is HOH, and Matt is up against Paul. You need 5 votes to evict Paul. So you'd have Jess and Raven as sure votes against Paul; and Alex, Jason, Kevin, Christmas & Josh as sure bets against Matt with Mark & Elena as swing votes. Even without the swing votes Matt goes home. with 5 votes against. So I don't see any way Matt would beat out Paul. If Alex is up there Mark & Elena probably vote Alex out which would be the 5 needed along with Matt, Raven & Christmas.

The only hope is to put Paul up against Jason with Cody as HOH. Then the votes become iffy. Jess definitely votes against Paul. Alex would probably vote against Paul since she is so close to Jason. You would think that Kevin would vote to evict Paul over Jason, but Paul has been keeping Kevin safe this whole game, so would Kevin turn on him? Christmas, Raven & Matt would probably be definite votes against Jason. So the votes would come down to Mark (who I think might actually vote to keep Jason over Paul, especially if Cody and Jess pushed hard enough), Elena (would probably vote to evict Jason over Paul although it would be a stupid move on her part), and Josh (no telling who he'd vote for in this situation, probably the last person to talk to him before he walks back to cast his vote.

Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:39 am to
It is interesting that this twist might be very useful to Jody. If neither win HOH both of them should compete in it. If one of them wins the competition the other will have a shot at veto to stay safe as well.

A lot of things have to go right but in theory both could lose HOH and still be safe because of this twist. Of course you are probably going to have half the house compete in it as well just to stop them.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16253 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:40 am to
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gotta put up alex and hope that matt raven or christmas go up as the third. jess/cody (whoever isnt HOH) mark elena jason - wont go against alex kevin-i think can be convinved to get rid of paul thats five, even if you can get 4 with a third nom up there the HOH will choose who is evicted.

In the situation that Christmas is up as the 3rd nom, everyone would vote out Christmas. Jason, Kevin, Mark, Elena, Matt and Raven would all vote her out over Paul and Alex because Paul would rally the votes that way. If there are 3 noms up, the third nom is going home.
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 10:41 am
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:43 am to
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I don't particularly like Jessica or Cody, it's just that I HATE Paul, Raven, and Josh.


I think that is how the majority of viewers feel as well.
Posted by The Mad Fratter
Madison, MS
Member since Jul 2013
1284 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:48 am to
The only SJW cause I would ever support would be getting Paul fired from his job and ruining his brand. Seems much more noble than other shite they've tried to ruin people's lives over
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