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re: Big Brother 19 - Season Long Thread

Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:56 pm to
Two "rogue" votes would really create paranoia
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14053 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:02 pm to
Jason doing it would save Kevin's arse. Then again if Jason doesn't and Kevin does, Kevin can convince them Jason did and he becomes target #1 with Kevin still sliding by.

So much potential!!!
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:05 pm to
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Jason doing it would save Kevin's arse.



But didn't Kevin give them a head's up on a wonky vote to Ramses? Seems like that gives Jason a little bit of cover if he takes it and uses it. I'm not sure Jason is smart enough to see that opening though, but maybe Alex can convince him.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14053 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:09 pm to
Right, so if there are 2 then at least Kevin gave them a heads up, and the other side (basically not Alex or Jason) doesn't know who the two votes are.

I may be mistaken but right now Alex, Jason, and Paul are the only people that know Kevin may vote Ramses. Then Alex is the only one who knows Jason may do it. Alex and Jason will be the only two who know the actual votes. Right or did I miss more people knowing?

I may be overthinking things...
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 3:11 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:18 pm to
Another poster said Kevin told Ramses he may get a wonky vote, and Ramses told Alex and Jason about that conversation.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16257 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:39 pm to
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Another poster said Kevin told Ramses he may get a wonky vote, and Ramses told Alex and Jason about that conversation.

Correct. For some reason Kevin made a side remark to Ramses that he might get an unexpected vote (other than Jess' vote), but not to worry because Cody was getting voted out regardless. Later, when Ramses was trying to convince Alex and Jason that Kevin was the one the voted out Jillian, he threw out what Kevin told him about receiving an unexpected vote.

So if Kevin does what Paul says, then he will probably hurt his game regardless if Jason throws a hinky vote also. Everyone will blame Jason, but now all Jason has to do is tell everyone what Ramses told him, Ramses can verify it. So depending on whether everyone trusts Ramses would determine if Kevin is in trouble.

Now if Jason does throw a 2nd hinky vote out there, then everyone will be freaking out trying to determine who threw that 2nd vote (they will automatically think Jason threw one of them). I guess Jason ccould just tell everyone what Ramses told him, and say he decided to place the 2nd vote to prove to everyone that someone else threw the 1st hinky vote.

But if they were smart Jason, Alex and Kevin could try to pin the votes on Mark and Dom after the crap that came out last night as a result of Dom's interview. Now I'm not sure if that would be possible, but if they could it would be an awesome move.

This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 3:41 pm
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
39218 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

Cody actually played his HOH week perfectly and only got screwed because of the temptation.


Lol.

Perfectly isn't blindsiding your alliance with nominations.
Perfectly isn't nominating Christmas

GTFO
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:43 pm to
I don't think it's smart to try and pin it on someone specifically. Just tell them Kevin(or even just say someone) warned Ramses of a wonky vote, confirm to them Jason voted for Ramses to prove the wonky vote, and sit back and let them fight it out amongst themselves.


That puts Paul in an uneasy spot. He comes clean, and he's proven to be hiding stuff from them just like Cody did.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32037 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:47 pm to


Wall comp tonight
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
39218 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:48 pm to
Nice. That is Cody's game, too.

Calling it now.. Whistle-Nut takes it home
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24079 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

Honestly if BB hadn't thrown a vet in the mix with three weeks freedom this would be an entirely different conversation


Maybe, but I don't think it's a given that Paul would've been voted out with no safety at all. As annoying as Paul is at times, his social game runs circles around Cody's. I could see Cody making the big move and fail to finish it off by not getting everyone on board. All he had to do was discuss his plan and he could've gotten everything straightened out with his alliance before the veto ceremony.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16257 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:53 pm to
Yep, that would probably be the best move. for Jason.

Now why Kevin is even considering doing Paul's bidding is beyond me, when Kevin is trying to play a neutral game right now. And I really don't understand him actually giving Ramses' a heads up about it. He basically ratted on himself. The Cheese would be sorely disappointed in Kevin for ratting himself out.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16257 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:03 pm to
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Calling it now.. Whistle-Nut takes it home

Usually tall/heavier people don't do good with the wall comps. I would place my bet on Alex, but I don't think she wants to win this HOH. Mark definitely won't win it. Maybe Matt could pull it off.

I would laugh my arse off if Jess ends up winning this one.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 4:04 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:06 pm to
Yeah, next week is a better one for Alex to win, but with just her, Ramses, and Jason she may have to win this one.

Raven would seem to have an advantage being a dancer, but not sure how bad her foot injury is.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
45901 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:13 pm to
Nicole and james were the final two last year on the wall.

So..id give the adv to short ppl.

alex or jess have a great shot.

Elena wont last 10 minutes

Ramses could pull a win too. Perfect comp for a house shakeup.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
16021 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:24 pm to
Unless Alex throws this comp she's winning it
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
39218 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

Ramses could pull a win too. Perfect comp for a house shakeup.


I wouldn't be upset with that. Hopefully he would nominate Mark/Matt to make some movies, but that pussy would probably nominate Kevin.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
22120 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:31 pm to
Alex has already said she would put up Jess, Josh, Ramses if she wins and told Jason and Kevin they should too.

This house went from 60 to 0 in a week. Sucks.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:41 pm to
Yeah, it seemed like she had a long conversation with Paul last night. I hope she isn't planning on working with him, but understand if she does short term since she's on the wrong side of the numbers.
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
8036 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

Who is Jess voting for?


If her and Cody were smart, I'd have Cody tell her in front of the house that he knows he's going and for her to vote him out. Then she voted Ramses just to screw with them
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