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re: Better Call Saul Season 2 Finale: "Klick"
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:27 am to CaptSpaulding
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:27 am to CaptSpaulding
Fring's Back is perhaps nothing more than Vince's homage to having recently signed Giancarlo Esposito onto the show (which I'm guessing has very recently occurred).
Of course they may have had an option to include him in the finale, but there's no reason they needed to keep "Klicks" as the name of the finale once they decided against it. Whether he ended up appearing in the finale was probably in the air for some time, but "Fring's Back" was probably always planned assuming they signed him onto the show. And my guess is "Klicks" was officially named once the contract was signed.
Of course they may have had an option to include him in the finale, but there's no reason they needed to keep "Klicks" as the name of the finale once they decided against it. Whether he ended up appearing in the finale was probably in the air for some time, but "Fring's Back" was probably always planned assuming they signed him onto the show. And my guess is "Klicks" was officially named once the contract was signed.
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:30 am to LSU Wayne
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signed Giancarlo Esposito onto the show (which I'm guessing has very recently occurred).
He said on Rich Eisen podcast yesterday they haven't signed Giancarlo yet, but they are trying to.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:31 am to LSU Wayne
Klick alludes to the tape recorder click that ends the episode.
They changed it to a "K" to use the fring's back anagram. It could have been planned to introduce him this episode. But the very note Mike found: "Don't" to me was Gus' doing, and that note alone says "Fring's Back" IMO. I fully expect him to enter in Season 3.
They changed it to a "K" to use the fring's back anagram. It could have been planned to introduce him this episode. But the very note Mike found: "Don't" to me was Gus' doing, and that note alone says "Fring's Back" IMO. I fully expect him to enter in Season 3.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 10:42 am
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:38 am to musick
Please don't castrate me but I've never seen breaking bad (yes, I know... The horror) but what does the KLICK anagram stand for?
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:41 am to drewnbrla
The anagram was the first letter from all the episode titles alluding to a BB character (Gustavo Fring) appearing in BCS.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:46 am to drewnbrla
My take on it is Chuck negotiates with Jimmy.He will not report Jimmy but he can't practice under that name any more. The whole Mesa Verde thing gets messy and Kim decides just to get away. Not worth the risk to keep running with Jimmy.
Gus or one of his men left the note. Killing Hector would be bad for business for reasons we are not aware of just yet.
Gus or one of his men left the note. Killing Hector would be bad for business for reasons we are not aware of just yet.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:48 am to Ham Solo
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My take on it is Chuck negotiates with Jimmy.He will not report Jimmy but he can't practice under that name any more. The whole Mesa Verde thing gets messy and Kim decides just to get away. Not worth the risk to keep running with Jimmy.
This is a good theory.
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Gus or one of his men left the note. Killing Hector would be bad for business for reasons we are not aware of just yet.
Agreed.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:20 am to CaptSpaulding
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What sets Vince's writing apart from so many other shows is his way of making death not be the most significant form of plot advancement or suspense. Yea, we know Mike isn't going to die during this show, but that doesn't mean that he is "safe." What if he had gotten shot and was put in critical condition? How would he deal with that experience? How would it shape his character going forward? We saw this exact scenario with Hank in BB. His encounter with Tuco, and later being shot by the cousins, and surviving both, totally changed him, and we got to see it unfold.
Excellent post.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:27 am to Ham Solo
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My take on it is Chuck negotiates with Jimmy.He will not report Jimmy but he can't practice under that name any more. The whole Mesa Verde thing gets messy and Kim decides just to get away. Not worth the risk to keep running with Jimmy.
See, I think Kim has really hitched her wagon to Jimmy. I'm guessing something Jimmy does causes Kim to get disbarred at some point (or just being around Slippin' Jimmy rubs off on her and she does something questionable to earn disbarment). Originally I was thinking she had to die before BB began, but I'm feeling like professional failure would be the big driving factor to her leaving Jimmy's side.
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Gus or one of his men left the note. Killing Hector would be bad for business for reasons we are not aware of just yet.
I think the reason might simply be that Gus would be blamed for Hector's killing by the cartel, and he's in no place to take them on yet.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:22 pm to musick
Klick actually refers to the military term for distance. Mikes shot was going to be 1 kilometer, or "klick".
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:22 pm to SCTmo
I think Kim will get disbarred in the state of NM and have to move back to Nebraska or lose Mesa Verde and have no clients thus also moving back home. Chuck will try to tear apart Jimmy's life piece by piece and taking Kim out of the equation is as big of a loss as it gets.
I think ultimately Chuck will either have some kind of legal settlement where Jimmy can't practice law under the McGill name or Chuck dies and Jimmy changes his name.
I always thought there would be a couple seasons of post Breaking Bad, Nebraska Jimmy coming, but now I'm thinking that Gilligan is playing a long con and will only have a couple episodes of Nebraska present day stuff, where a lonely, friendless, beaten down Saul tries to find Kim and ask for forgiveness, no matter what legal troubles he's in. He's essentially in prison anyway with his current life and won't care about the risks anymore.
I think ultimately Chuck will either have some kind of legal settlement where Jimmy can't practice law under the McGill name or Chuck dies and Jimmy changes his name.
I always thought there would be a couple seasons of post Breaking Bad, Nebraska Jimmy coming, but now I'm thinking that Gilligan is playing a long con and will only have a couple episodes of Nebraska present day stuff, where a lonely, friendless, beaten down Saul tries to find Kim and ask for forgiveness, no matter what legal troubles he's in. He's essentially in prison anyway with his current life and won't care about the risks anymore.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:41 pm to timbo
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The last scene needs to be Jimmy/Saul wrapping up business and Walter White stepping in his office.
agree...which is why he doesn't need to turn into saul like so many on this board want him to asap. if they are going to do 5 seasons of this show i think they are going at a perfect pace.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:43 pm to Ham Solo
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My take on it is Chuck negotiates with Jimmy.He will not report Jimmy but he can't practice under that name any more. The whole Mesa Verde thing gets messy and Kim decides just to get away. Not worth the risk to keep running with Jimmy.
bingo
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:46 pm to Jack Ruby
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couple episodes of Nebraska present day stuff, where a lonely, friendless, beaten down Saul tries to find Kim and ask for forgiveness, no matter what legal troubles he's in. He's essentially in prison anyway with his current life and won't care about the risks anymore.
This would be kind of anticlimactic.
The final season should open in black and white with Nebraska Jimmy. We see Jimmy fed up with this life and he finally grooms himself and puts on his best lawyer suit. At this point we transition from black and white to color. We are now present time and post Breaking Bad.
Jimmy has decided he would rather march back into Albuquerque and defend himself in court than live another day in hiding. The final few episodes could be an amazing courtroom trial and Jimmy's most important case ever.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:09 pm to Ham Solo
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The final season should open in black and white with Nebraska Jimmy. We see Jimmy fed up with this life and he finally grooms himself and puts on his best lawyer suit. At this point we transition from black and white to color. We are now present time and post Breaking Bad.
Jimmy has decided he would rather march back into Albuquerque and defend himself in court than live another day in hiding. The final few episodes could be an amazing courtroom trial and Jimmy's most important case ever.
Eh.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:12 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Eh.
I am a sucker for some good court room action. It's one thing I wish we could see more of with Jimmy. We see how he operates in everyday life, but I want to see some dirty Saul tactics in front of a jury.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:16 pm to CaptSpaulding
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What sets Vince's writing apart from so many other shows is his way of making death not be the most significant form of plot advancement or suspense.
but i specifically was talking about the cliffhanger and its impact being "safe"
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:18 pm to Ham Solo
The first 16 episodes have been worth the watch. I think BCS is an intersting and that Jimmie's development is so underrated. It seems everyone is just waiting for Saul and drug dealers and hits, but Jimmie was not involved very much with that portion of the business. They have skillfully setup a situation where we know Saul and we see Jimmie, and from the beginning, Jimmie has been playing it straight. Chuck has pushed Jimmie closer to Saul than anyone. I agree with some previous posters, the second Jimmie stops worrying about Chuck and cuts his ties, that is the moment he becomes Saul. I love the easter egg with the recorder. I love how Saul has already learned the lesson we are about to see in season three by kicking Walt out of his office when offered a bribe.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:19 pm to Ham Solo
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I am a sucker for some good court room action. It's one thing I wish we could see more of with Jimmy. We see how he operates in everyday life, but I want to see some dirty Saul tactics in front of a jury.
I heard ya. I suppose I wouldn't hate seeing him truly at work more.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 3:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but i specifically was talking about the cliffhanger and its impact being "safe"
Yes, obviously I agree that Jimmy isn't going to be disbarred and/or convicted of a felony because of the tape. You are right that the show being a prequel gives him plot armor in that regard, but that also means that nothing is ever going to go that drastically wrong for Jimmy. Instead of being left wondering what will happen to him, we are left wondering how he is going to get out of it. What has to happen to Chuck, Kim, and everyone else for Jimmy to end up where we know he does? To me, that is where the suspense lies.
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