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re: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice set and cast photos

Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

Superman would incinerate Batman to ashes from the moon whilest taking a dump and reading the morning paper.


Well, Superman just got finished taking an atomic bomb and was weaker than usual, so I can buy it in that set of circumstances.
Posted by vilma4prez
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:31 pm to
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Well, Superman just got finished taking an atomic bomb and was weaker than usual, so I can buy it in that set of circumstances.



and at night.. so no sun power for supes.

Batman played it well.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:48 pm to
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The Dark Knight Returns was the worst thing to happen to Batman.
Worse than Batman & Robin?
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:01 pm to
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The Dark Knight Returns was the worst thing to happen to Batman. 


Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:06 pm to
Yeah, I have a hard time believing a comic book with this scene could be looked at as the worst thing that ever happened to Batman: LINK
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

The Dark Knight Returns was the worst thing to happen to Batman.

Superman would incinerate Batman to ashes from the moon whilest taking a dump and reading the morning paper.


It just took the "Batman Quotient" to ridiculous levels. Some writers since have brought it back down to earth though.

I get what you are saying. It doesn't make Batman a bad character, but it makes many conversations about Batman really crappy.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

The Dark Knight Returns was the worst thing to happen to Batman.


well goodbye credibility
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:21 pm to
I read the first few pages before I lost interest in the back and forth exchanges but I would disagree with people who are completely intolerant of any character flaws, anger, imperfection, etc in the Superman character.

Does anyone remember how much the Star Trek Next Generation series sucked before Gene Roddenberry died? And the reason why? IMO is is the same reason a completely flawless Superman is uninteresting... because we generally find drama in the absence of human emotions uninteresting.

I enjoyed the Superman MOS effort. I liked what they did overall with the movie character with the exception of his indifference to some destruction and risk to human life that he should have avoided (even if he is not yet perfecto, moral, adult Superman he should still have enough empathy for loss of life to make it more of a priority). I have read the opinions of others who believe he could not have easily avoided this as the movie was written. I respectfully disagree, based on how the movie played out he would have behaved differently in that way. If you wish to write a post disagreeing on this point then go ahead, i'll do my best to resist the urge to debate further.

Still, I liked the movie. It had style and tried to do something more interesting and watchable than what I was afraid they would do with maybe the most iconic fictional character of the 20th century. The casting was also good, it is good for Superman to look like Superman and the lead fits the part in every way other than not being Christopher Reeve's son.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:22 pm to
thanks for drumming up an argument thats been beaten to death and since been moved on from.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:24 pm to
It's my fault. I need to stop bumping this damn thread.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37539 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:25 pm to
are you this much of a douche to people you know? or do you have something against me in particular?
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38671 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:28 pm to
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are you this much of a douche to people you know? or do you have something against me in particular?


It was a little uncalled for. But you are both good people.

It's just that a few of us have bashed heads more than a few times on those very points.



Any Man of Steel/Superman thread eventually calls into question the debate about the 2013 film because:


quote:

IMO is is the same reason a completely flawless Superman is uninteresting... because we generally find drama in the absence of human emotions uninteresting.


There are two very good sides to this.

And I think it's somewhat sad that we find "goodness" uninteresting.

My big problem with this thread was the first page and a half or so, that's why I jumped in.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 8:37 pm
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:32 pm to
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molsusports


Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38671 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:35 pm to
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BlacknGold


Did you read his post? He's actually on your side. He's saying that arguments about an "all good/flawless" Superman are not based in complexity/quality of the character.

This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 8:36 pm
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:37 pm to
how did you get that from that post?

he said he disagrees the destruction was unavoidable and that Superman shouldve showed empathy about the destruction and couldve avoided it. its the same argument thats run rampant here.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38671 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:38 pm to
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how did you get that from that post?

he said he disagrees the destruction was unavoidable and that Superman shouldve showed empathy about the destruction and couldve avoided it. its the same argument thats run rampant here.


I meant the stated intolerance for people wanting a perfect Superman, not the destruction, which to me is the much more important argument.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 8:38 pm
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:40 pm to
so he agrees with some of what i said but disagrees with others. my problem isnt with the opinions. my thing was we have moved past that and actually got to discussing the title of this thread instead of being stuck on MoS.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38671 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:41 pm to
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so he agrees with some of what i said but disagrees with others. my problem isnt with the opinions. my thing was we have moved past that and actually got to discussing the title of this thread instead of being stuck on MoS.


This is an asynchronous message board, it happens.

:cracksknuckles:

LET'S DO THIS!

(Like I said the first page was at fault, The MoS fans derailed it with the sarcasm.)
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 8:43 pm
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37539 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:42 pm to
I actually never said anything about not liking you because I don't know you. it does however seem clear that you were randomly and unnecessarily rude to me for no real reason. whatever the reason it is also seems inconsistent since I didn't see you pop in to shush anyone in the any number of pages in which people went back and forth like children.

whatever the reason it seems like your problem, not mine so...



please note, i have no idea if you are a bitch in real life or just on the internet
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38671 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:44 pm to
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molsusports


I riled up BnG over the last few days. He and I went tit for tat in the DC thread until like 1am. Just for clarification.
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