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re: A&E Biography is back: Bret Hart premiere

Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10854 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:36 pm to
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Wow! I've not seen that footage, before. That was an incredibly "gay" exchange between McMahon and Michaels, there. The looks they give one another, the tender embrace... McMahon actually kisses Michaels' neck, at one point! Vince has never been known as an emotional guy, but I've never seen him behave this way with his wife or other women. I'm convinced McMahon and Michaels had a homosexual affair, now.


Or maybe you’re a Mark.
Posted by Hoodie
Donaldsonville, LA
Member since Dec 2019
2986 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:44 pm to
Of course I am. But still, there's no way you can watch that video clip and not get at least an inkling that there was something more than business or friendship between these guys. McMahon looks absolutely smitten, there!
Posted by moontigr
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Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 3:40 pm to
I worked in the business for many years and I’ve said before in other threads that pro wrestlers are in general some of the worst-quality human beings you’ll come across. Very few are what I’d call “good guys” and some of the ones you’d think were good guys are some of the biggest POS in real life.
Posted by Hoodie
Donaldsonville, LA
Member since Dec 2019
2986 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 3:53 pm to
I think less of Jim Cornette every time I listen to his podcast, which I may not do anymore after his recent hour-long rant against Penelope Ford.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 2:07 pm to
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WCW and other promotions found and discovered almost all of WWF's star talent in the 80s and 90s, but they may not have flourished until they got there, but they were still alredy in the business.

Austin and Foley and Undertaker all came from WCW. You could make a standalone episode just on how much talent WCW squandered in the late 80s and early 90s. I think Hall and Nash were both WCW at one point early in their careers as well. Michaels was a Mid-South guy.


Nash definitely was WCW. So was Triple H. Hall and Michaels started out in NWA territories but made a name for themselves in AWA.

It’s crazy to think WCW had Austin, Foley, Taker, Hunter, Pillman, Jericho, Eddie, Benoit, Booker. Didn’t see any of them as potential main eventers until Booker in their dying days.

Maybe you can say some of those guys hadn’t shown they were star material yet, but Austin was charismatic and a great worker even back then. And Jericho clearly had star written all over him and obviously incredible in the ring.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 2:10 pm to
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The two guys who I first think of when I think of "Attitude Era" are Steve Austin and Brian Pillman, both of whom came up in WCW


That’s fair, but I think Kevin Nash as Diesel deserves a lot of credit in starting that change of attitude.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 2:15 pm to
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I may get torched for this, but I believe Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero may have been similarly linked. At the very least, I think Benoit may have secretly been in love with Eddie. There’s some weird shite in that episode of Dark Side of the Ring. Chris mourned Eddie like a man mourns a wife or lover.


I think Benoit was just a weird closed off dude who let Eddie in and loved him like a brother. He wasn’t used to being that close to anyone and Eddie’s death broke him. There is nothing about Eddie or his life that would suggest he may have been having a gay love affair.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 2:27 pm to
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A lot of these guys are real pieces of crap. Sometimes it’s better to not know about your childhood heroes. After listening to stories about Jake the snake, Scott Hall, Jim Cornett, , me starts to realize these people are mostly degenerates who were not great role models or decent human beings.


Back in the day the business was designed to attract degenerate pieces of crap. Seems like it just recently started to change cause the business changed.
Posted by IIxxBREADxxII
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
9735 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:33 pm to
9. Dusty Rhodes run in the WWE from 89-91. The blatant ribbing and disrespect for The Dream was insane. From Saphhire to his entrance music to the polkadot tights.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22714 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 5:14 pm to
Just a reminder, The Stone Cold episode premieres tonight at 7 on A&E.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 5:46 pm to
I hope they follow the same path that the 30 for 30’s did.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 5:50 pm to
People adults really believe their favorite wrestlers are good people?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47642 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:42 pm to
Vince McMahon is a POS. He stands in the way of an incredibly interesting and untapped genre of television and movie making with the characters of wrestling’s real life experiences. Hopefully he dies soon and we can get some great new stories people want to see.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66405 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:55 pm to
Damn, I was going to watch then realized YouTubeTV doesn’t have A&E. shite.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 7:06 pm to
Jesus. You hate Vince?
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
58306 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 7:19 pm to
I haven’t watched wrestling in 20+ years and I’m recording all of these.
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
11870 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 9:52 pm to
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Bret Hart & Screwjob


Bruce Prichard had a great podcast about this.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22714 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 9:52 pm to
Has a shaved head and goatee ever been so effective? Damn it changed his entire career.

Overall, I thought the episode was very well done. It felt big. It felt serious. The music was a huge factor, it perhaps the biggest was Jim Ross. He brought such a literary-like description to Austin's career.

I thought it was one of the better wrestling documentaries I've seen. Of course, the etire stone cold story is a large reason for that, but just compare it to the Ric Flair 30 for 30, which literally featured cartoons, and this one was just such a better production.

Looking forward to Roddy Piper next week. His life was a movie in itself.
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5017 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:55 pm to
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The music was a huge factor, it


Man todays entrances dont have near the same impact.

When austins glass shattered you know shite was going down...same with taker and the gong.

Posted by Magnus
San Diego
Member since Sep 2019
1285 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:55 am to
i feel like most die hard fans already know alot of these back stories. I watched some of the Stone Cold and there wasn't anything there i didn't know already
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