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a question about a scene in lonesome dove
Posted on 11/9/19 at 11:45 am
Posted on 11/9/19 at 11:45 am
When jake spoon fell in with that bad bunch and they are about to be hanged.
Call tells them "git your boots off boys"
Why? Was that a sign of disrespect?
But when jake spurred his horse he still had his boots on. Did they still respect him?
He let everybody down.
Call tells them "git your boots off boys"
Why? Was that a sign of disrespect?
But when jake spurred his horse he still had his boots on. Did they still respect him?
He let everybody down.
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Posted on 11/9/19 at 12:06 pm to L1C4
Posted on 11/9/19 at 12:26 pm to L1C4
They reluctantly killed Jake so probably that was their way of giving him some small bit of forgiveness
Posted on 11/9/19 at 1:16 pm to biglego
They let him die with his boots on., that's respect.
They didn't want to kill Jake but they had to because he was a running with horse theaves (one of the worst offenses there was back then) and scumbags.
They didn't want to kill Jake but they had to because he was a running with horse theaves (one of the worst offenses there was back then) and scumbags.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 1:26 pm to L1C4
Dying with your boots on means you go down fighting. No cowboys want to die with boots off.
They let Jake keep his out of respect of his Ranger days.
They let Jake keep his out of respect of his Ranger days.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 8:32 pm to Kafka
You should host a show on TCM. Kafka's Korner. Maybe "Kafka's Kamera Korner."
Posted on 11/9/19 at 9:07 pm to PowerTool
quote:Would hope they'd give you a Friday night at 11PM, and Saturday morning at 9AM, so you can do a promo, and ask, "Do you get your Kafka Knowledge Friday nights at 11, or Saturday morning at nine?
"Kafka Knows"
Posted on 11/9/19 at 9:28 pm to PowerTool
quote:Don't you just love it in the bleachers when a pitcher gets 3 strikeouts -- but doesn't get another one, and they're stuck with the 3 Ks...
Maybe "Kafka's Kamera Korner."
If anyone cares the ending of LD is also an homage, a variation on the original ending of Red River (it's in the novel, and the original script). However director Howard Hawks changed the script so Wayne's character didn't die.
Trivia that is actually interesting: McMurtry originally wrote LD as a screenplay around 1974, as a vehicle for Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, and Henry Fonda (presumably Wayne would have played the Duvall role).
Posted on 11/9/19 at 9:57 pm to Kafka
quote:
Trivia that is actually interesting: McMurtry originally wrote LD as a screenplay around 1974, as a vehicle for Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, and Henry Fonda (presumably Wayne would have played the Duvall role).
I remember reading somewhere that Hollywood had tried to get Stewart and Wayne together for one last Western unnamed project. Supposedly, one or both of them rejected the idea because it was something of a "closing of the West' story that didn't have the kind of triumphant ending they liked. When I read about McMurtry's original idea, I realized this must have been it.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 10:05 pm to PowerTool
If you really want some mind blowing Wayne trivia:
LINK
quote:Can you imagine lovable Opie gunning down the Duke???
Wayne's contract gave him script approval, and he made a number of major and minor changes, including the location (from El Paso to Carson City), and the ending. In the book and original screenplay, Jack Pulford was shot in the back by Books, and Books, in turn, was shot by Gillom; Wayne maintained that over his entire film career, he had never shot an adversary in the back, and would not do so now. He also objected to his character being shot by Gillom, and suggested that the bartender do it, because "no one could ever take John Wayne in a fair fight"
LINK
Posted on 11/10/19 at 4:34 pm to L1C4
dont know if its true or not but i had always heard removing the boots before hanging was because you cant get a dead mans boots off without fighting it like a SOB so its about being able to steal their boots easier after they are dead
Posted on 11/10/19 at 4:37 pm to keakar
That sound a like a practical concern. I bet it is hard to pull boots off a stiff corpse. But I agree that in this movie it was about respect for Jake.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 6:56 pm to biglego
By spurring his horse, Jake also hanged himself. Thus, sparing his old friends from having to do it.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:40 pm to Jack Ruby
quote:
They didn't want to kill Jake but they had to because he was a running with horse theaves (one of the worst offenses there was back then) and scumbags.
Which is hypocritical since Gus, Call, Jake and the boys all ride down to Mexico and steal a hundred horses for their cattle drive.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:56 pm to PowerTool
Kafka > Robert Osborne
Posted on 11/11/19 at 5:41 am to crimsonsaint
They hung the group for killing the homesteaders, not horse thieving
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