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re: A little thought on why GOT changed
Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:46 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:46 pm to SammyTiger
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and D&D are supposed to figure it out in 3 seasons.
Could have been done in 30 episodes.
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Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:56 pm to prplhze2000
No coincidence it changed when they started passing the books in season 5.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 4:54 pm to prplhze2000
What happened was they had to end the show in 13 episodes. They needed another season to wrap things up
Posted on 5/17/19 at 5:20 pm to Gatorbait2008
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I want to know how the same writers who came up with Arya's revenge on the Frey's
They didn't think of it, they stole it from Martin.
At Ramsey's wedding, House Manderly of White Harbor fed meat pies at the reception. The meat was Walter Frey's sons. The North remembers.
The Rat Cook story is one of the stories that Old Nan tells Bran.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 5:24 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:Yep, this is part of the pacing.
But they’re actually 16 episodes worth of screen time. I think one of the reasons it feels rushed is because more happens in one episode. These last 4 episodes are actually more like 6 episodes and that feels faster paced as a result.
Ep 1, 2, and 3 are good.
Ep 4- should be funeral pyres, ends with Jaime bedding Brienne. *Dany broods about losing Jorah, and about Jon's claim.
Ep 5- the army leaves Winterfell, Dany shocked by Rhaegar's death and the loss of Missandei, deepening distrust of Jon's true motive.
Ends with Varys' execution, and her final talk with Jon. Fear it is.
Ep 6 King's Landing, from the point of landing on the beach, through the rest of the show.
Doing that, we'd probably go back to 1 hr blocks, and it would give us 2 episodes where Dany progresses from jealousy of Jon's popularity, to hatred of all things Westeros (including her advisors). Gives us multiple weeks of processing her loss of emotional supporters, and a full week to interpret Varys' death. Broken up that way, you don't even need to add anything to the screen, just cut the shows differently.
Instead, we start Ep 5 knowing she's pissed, see that she's stressed out bigtime, and before we can spend any real time processing that, she's on Drogon hitting the city walls.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 5:24 pm to prplhze2000
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I don't think HBO had any idea it would become popular, much less as popular as it did.
Dude...by the end of season three just about every millennial in the country was watching it. It was the most talked about show in America by the end of season four. The show is in its eighth season now.
HBO has known they have had a hit on its hands since before the showrunners caught up to the books.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:32 pm to prplhze2000
The dividing line is obvious.
When the show ran out of completed books for source material the quality noticably declined.
The past 2 seasons have also been extremely rushed too.
When the show ran out of completed books for source material the quality noticably declined.
The past 2 seasons have also been extremely rushed too.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:34 pm to prplhze2000
You said nothing to your point. 
Fyi it has been down hill for years. We got called stupid but glad you ppl finally see it.
Fyi it has been down hill for years. We got called stupid but glad you ppl finally see it.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:41 pm to RollTide1987
I mean the first season or two. They didn't think it would be this popular so they gave it typical HBO treatment. The books gave them an easy way to follow.
WW doesn't have that luxury, hence the Noland are the creators of the story and the producers of the show as well
WW doesn't have that luxury, hence the Noland are the creators of the story and the producers of the show as well
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:44 pm to SEClint
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Seems like they just didnt want to pay their actors by the episode or something
Pretty sure HBO told D&D they could have 13 episodes this last season if that’s what they wanted. Someone posted the article on here recently. We’re they not gonna pay the actors more for those episodes or something?
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:45 pm to prplhze2000
The thing is...D and D gave us a lot of good Hardhome, Margery death, Baelish death, Little finger death, etc etc.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:58 pm to Duzz
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.D and D gave us a lot of good
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Little finger death
Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:08 pm to Duzz
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D and D gave us a lot of good Hardhome
I'm actually not a Hardhome fan. The action scenes aren't the reason I watched the show. Blackwater means more than Hardhome.
It was cool but meh.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:14 pm to jg8623
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We’re they not gonna pay the actors more for those episodes or something?
I dont know, I know the top 7 cast were making a million each. So, they saved 28 million by having 6 episodes instead of 10.
Which wouldnt make sense to me, as it's the most watched show with no competition right now. That 28 million probably wouldnt be shite.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:33 pm to SEClint
quote:But I wonder how the fact that they don’t get the ad revenue to correspond to those ratings impacts the revenue per viewer. Of course, more viewers probably means more paid subscribers as a result of the show, but it doesn’t seem as clear of a relationship between the two, and oddly, it may be clearer once it ends (if people cancel).
Which wouldnt make sense to me, as it's the most watched show with no competition right now. That 28 million probably wouldnt be shite.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:35 pm to SEClint
I think D&D somehow came to the conclusion that the big, really expensive battle scenes that were long and grueling to film were where they wanted to put their priority. Quiet character building, coherent character arcs and logically flowing plot developments were not as important to them.
Cynically, it sure seems like this is something that might be done if they were kind of auditioning for a big budget action oriented project - like say Star Wars for example But, who knows what their real motivations were.
Cynically, it sure seems like this is something that might be done if they were kind of auditioning for a big budget action oriented project - like say Star Wars for example But, who knows what their real motivations were.
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