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re: 1923 season two (SPOILERS)
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:40 am to Mett's Stache
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:40 am to Mett's Stache
Taylor Sheridan once again doing Taylor Sheridan things.
This thing is dragging out interminably. Before we finally watched this latest episode last night, I was complaining to my wife that nothing's really happening or advancing in the various storylines.... then we watched this episode and it's more of the same.
Dude is like the king of the sidequest.
Girl in NY: Starts episode in train station bathroom getting robbed. Ends episode on a train.
Dude in Texas: Starts episode walking with belongings on his back. Encoutners bootleggers. Encounters hoboes. Ends episdoe walking with belongings on his back.
Indian Girl: Starts episode herding cows. Ends episode having seen her wanted poster.
Yellowstone. At least there was some character development here with both sheep gangster and whiny city girl as well as bringing another pawn back into the fight with the brain surgery. But still... not a lot actually happening.
This thing is dragging out interminably. Before we finally watched this latest episode last night, I was complaining to my wife that nothing's really happening or advancing in the various storylines.... then we watched this episode and it's more of the same.
Dude is like the king of the sidequest.
Girl in NY: Starts episode in train station bathroom getting robbed. Ends episode on a train.
Dude in Texas: Starts episode walking with belongings on his back. Encoutners bootleggers. Encounters hoboes. Ends episdoe walking with belongings on his back.
Indian Girl: Starts episode herding cows. Ends episode having seen her wanted poster.
Yellowstone. At least there was some character development here with both sheep gangster and whiny city girl as well as bringing another pawn back into the fight with the brain surgery. But still... not a lot actually happening.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 9:41 am
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:56 am to hogfly
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sheep gangster
Posted on 3/23/25 at 1:07 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Actually the 6666 and Rip/Beth/Carter are two different spinoff. I have a bunch that the couple Alex met tonight are the anchor for The Madison series. TS also has 1943 in pre-production. Frankly I think he should stick to the YS lineage and leave The Madison, 6666, and maybe even the R/B/C spinoff to someone else.
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I wish they would do a Yellowstone spin off or do the 6666 spin off.
They are. It's a Beth and Rip spinoff. I believe they are about to start filming.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 1:42 am to hogfly
I think the Indian storyline is taking up too much time. Not everybody in YS needs an anchor. Rainwater is one of those that doesn't. About halfway through I was about to join the anti-TS crowd. By the end you can see where things are headed next. Also, don't good cliffhangers involve something that viewers care about? IDGAF if Hank, the marshal, or the priest die, actually I'd prefer all three do.
Alex: You needed to have the attack which led to her working on the train. If there was going to be a 3rd season I'd be all for them going down to path of the SA and her fellow English travelers helping. Season 2 could've been the journey with the season ending as she was on the last leg of her trip. Instead we've had 5/8 of the season wasted on the Indians and Whitfield abusing hookers while she's stuck in Chicago. Winnetka is still one of the richest Chicago suburbs. It's halfway between Chicago and the WI state line. Her going there eliminates what I feared would be a Capone tie in with the Galveston family. (Capone's "family" controlled the SOUTH side.)
Spencer: It was also a relief that they didn't tie the woman marshal and him together for a multiple episode story arc going after the Indians. When you're sitting at a jail, just STFU and take your train ticket. Why would you give the sheriff a reason to ask them to detain you? Thankfully TS doesn't do fast major turns with his main cast members otherwise I'd be worried about the sheriff getting involved with Whitfield.
Jacob, Cara, Jack, Liz: Who? None of them got a second of airtime. Maybe this is the result of the timing to get the episode out soon enough to advertise on YS. I believe TS could shoot anything involving stuntmen as long as it was already written and didn't use actors.
Banner: That scene was necessary but felt like it was there to pad out the episode length. Ditto the hookers scene. Frankly the hookers walking away would've been a better ending than Hank running his house to death before getting into a shootout.
It feels like he formed a structure for both 5B and 1923 S3 and then just changed the content. The last 3 should've been condensed to 2 episodes. Do we really need a MM rape and two female characters being violated? It's as unnecessary as the YS horse circle scenes. It feels like episode 8 needs to be nearly movie length of he wants to end this in a good way.
Alex: You needed to have the attack which led to her working on the train. If there was going to be a 3rd season I'd be all for them going down to path of the SA and her fellow English travelers helping. Season 2 could've been the journey with the season ending as she was on the last leg of her trip. Instead we've had 5/8 of the season wasted on the Indians and Whitfield abusing hookers while she's stuck in Chicago. Winnetka is still one of the richest Chicago suburbs. It's halfway between Chicago and the WI state line. Her going there eliminates what I feared would be a Capone tie in with the Galveston family. (Capone's "family" controlled the SOUTH side.)
Spencer: It was also a relief that they didn't tie the woman marshal and him together for a multiple episode story arc going after the Indians. When you're sitting at a jail, just STFU and take your train ticket. Why would you give the sheriff a reason to ask them to detain you? Thankfully TS doesn't do fast major turns with his main cast members otherwise I'd be worried about the sheriff getting involved with Whitfield.
Jacob, Cara, Jack, Liz: Who? None of them got a second of airtime. Maybe this is the result of the timing to get the episode out soon enough to advertise on YS. I believe TS could shoot anything involving stuntmen as long as it was already written and didn't use actors.
Banner: That scene was necessary but felt like it was there to pad out the episode length. Ditto the hookers scene. Frankly the hookers walking away would've been a better ending than Hank running his house to death before getting into a shootout.
It feels like he formed a structure for both 5B and 1923 S3 and then just changed the content. The last 3 should've been condensed to 2 episodes. Do we really need a MM rape and two female characters being violated? It's as unnecessary as the YS horse circle scenes. It feels like episode 8 needs to be nearly movie length of he wants to end this in a good way.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 9:09 am to MSUDawg98
I agree the on the protracted Indian story. I did notice that C. Thomas Howell was the ranch owner that made shout out "Wolverines!".
On Alex, The SA was unnecessary. TS should have used the robbery in NY for Alex to get medieval. Just have to snobby first class passengers treat her like steerage should have been enough to have the wealthy Brit couple should her some pity.
Spencer: Aside from taking to long to get home he was good in this episode. This is one thing that stuck out with me on the telephone call. He only mention his brother being dead and not Jacob. He clearly thinks he's dead too because he only asked the Sheriff to get the message to Cara.
I feel like Banner might be on the verge of a "face-turn". He realized Whitfield is crazy as hell an may be on the verge of looking for an out. He's screwed either way IMO.
It appears the theory of Alex being the replacement for Whitefield's play toys is over since a replacement has been found..
I hope the Sherriff is not on Whitfield's payroll. He left without telling anyone where he was going. That would suck but would be a class TS dick-move
On Alex, The SA was unnecessary. TS should have used the robbery in NY for Alex to get medieval. Just have to snobby first class passengers treat her like steerage should have been enough to have the wealthy Brit couple should her some pity.
Spencer: Aside from taking to long to get home he was good in this episode. This is one thing that stuck out with me on the telephone call. He only mention his brother being dead and not Jacob. He clearly thinks he's dead too because he only asked the Sheriff to get the message to Cara.
I feel like Banner might be on the verge of a "face-turn". He realized Whitfield is crazy as hell an may be on the verge of looking for an out. He's screwed either way IMO.
It appears the theory of Alex being the replacement for Whitefield's play toys is over since a replacement has been found..
I hope the Sherriff is not on Whitfield's payroll. He left without telling anyone where he was going. That would suck but would be a class TS dick-move
Posted on 3/23/25 at 11:16 am to BuckyCheese
This poor girl Alex and Sheridan is a degenerate after this episode.
This post was edited on 3/23/25 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 3/23/25 at 11:27 am to pbro62
So is there going to be a 3rd season? I’ve been out of the loop on that.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 11:37 am to gravy553
The way it’s set up now, I don’t see how you have Spencer show up and fix everything in one episode without it all being ridiculous. It’ll have to be like the action in Rambo 2 mixed with the scenery of Rambo 1.
Unless Bronn switches sides, which they are foreshadowing without being subtle.
There is no doubt going to be a scene of Spencer’s inevitable Indian sidekicks making an amazing arrow sniper shot in the final fight.
Unless Bronn switches sides, which they are foreshadowing without being subtle.
There is no doubt going to be a scene of Spencer’s inevitable Indian sidekicks making an amazing arrow sniper shot in the final fight.
This post was edited on 3/23/25 at 11:49 am
Posted on 3/23/25 at 12:51 pm to hogfly
So Apparently in the US, only British people are honorable, all Americans are opportunistic, evil, unsympathetic, and violent. I know it's a Sheridan show, but Jesus, the shite Alex is going through is just silly. They make the US look worse than Africa.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 3:10 pm to Shiftyplus1
"It's not my place to be charitable with the Union Pacific's goods."
In no way, shape, or form would she be riding a Union Pacific train anywhere along the routing from NYC to Billings.
In no way, shape, or form would she be riding a Union Pacific train anywhere along the routing from NYC to Billings.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 4:34 pm to Sus-Scrofa
I said in one thread about 1923, maybe this one, that this season would be all about Spencer getting home with some Alex and the Indian girl situation as a backdrop and that he probably wouldn’t make it home to the very end and then that would be the cliffhanger. That would be so TS like (like all his drama finishes that leave you hanging like Tulsa King and Yellowstone). Tees you up for the next season but someone on here said that wouldn’t be the case since the actor that plays Spencer did an interview where he said he did a lot of scenes with Harrison Ford. Not sure how honest he was there because I don’t see Spencer getting home in time to do much and if TS tries to cram a resolution into this season it’s going to be way too much imo.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 5:24 pm to MWP
I get a kick out of how the female marshal says she can't detain Spencer because he hasn't done anything.
Yet she detained him, and drug him 30 miles to Abilene, to call a sheriff in Montana just to make sure he was who he said he was. While his only apparent "violation" was snoozing under a tree out in the middle of nowhere. Bad arse bitch just assumes he's a criminal with zero evidence.
And where did the horse for him to ride back come from? They brought an extra why?
Yes, I love to hate on Sheridan shows. I really like the premise of many of them, but the execution at times is eye rolling.
The train stuff is fricking killing me. So much wrong.
And winter does not last until June "up here". Idiotic.
Yet she detained him, and drug him 30 miles to Abilene, to call a sheriff in Montana just to make sure he was who he said he was. While his only apparent "violation" was snoozing under a tree out in the middle of nowhere. Bad arse bitch just assumes he's a criminal with zero evidence.
And where did the horse for him to ride back come from? They brought an extra why?
Yes, I love to hate on Sheridan shows. I really like the premise of many of them, but the execution at times is eye rolling.
The train stuff is fricking killing me. So much wrong.
And winter does not last until June "up here". Idiotic.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 5:36 pm to BuckyCheese
I thought it was funny that the creep was just standing there talking to the cops more or less fine. If he actually took the beating with the kettle they showed, he might be dead.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 9:27 pm to BuckyCheese
Yeah I was scratching my head on where the horse Spencer got on came from. Also find it interesting he was awarded the Medal of Honor. Seems like that would have maybe been mentioned in Yellowstone by maybe Kayce who also received the Navy Cross and a Silver Star. Guess that is just some random shite TS just threw into 1923.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 10:03 pm to MWP
Sheridan is great at setting a premise. Terrible at actually following through with it.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 10:31 pm to grizzlylongcut
This is fricking terrible
Sheridan’s 1920 America every woman gets raped and robbed daily
Sheridan’s 1920 America every woman gets raped and robbed daily
This post was edited on 3/23/25 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 3/23/25 at 10:34 pm to grizzlylongcut
I am so fricking tired of the out of the frying pan and into the fire bullshite. Can we just not get to Montana and fight Timothy Dalton for Gods sake?
I say it again, this ain’t 1750 trying to get from Jamestown to Montana, this is 1923. It was more challenging than it is today but for God’s sake this is too much.
Enough is enough Sheridan. I’m gonna follow this show through but I ain’t watching the next. It’s so over the top and he’s becoming predictable.
I told my wife that A) Smiles A lot was gonna get killed by that evil Marshall the second he split up and B) Alex would get raped/assaulted on the train
I say it again, this ain’t 1750 trying to get from Jamestown to Montana, this is 1923. It was more challenging than it is today but for God’s sake this is too much.
Enough is enough Sheridan. I’m gonna follow this show through but I ain’t watching the next. It’s so over the top and he’s becoming predictable.
I told my wife that A) Smiles A lot was gonna get killed by that evil Marshall the second he split up and B) Alex would get raped/assaulted on the train
Posted on 3/23/25 at 10:35 pm to Frac the world
Thanks. Am on where she got released. Taking too damn long
Posted on 3/24/25 at 5:51 am to Frac the world
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I’m gonna follow this show through but I ain’t watching the next.
Yeah you will
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:37 am to CU_Tigers4life
I'll watch because i want to see the series through to the modern day Yellowstone.
But, yeah, the number of road blocks Spencer and Alex run into during their treks to Montana are like National Lampoon level.
Oh, you're sleeping under a tree out here? you must be a bad guy.
Though for a minute the woman marshal. was going to hang up after the sheriff didn't believe she was a marshal. Then it was yes, I know Spencer Dutton, he's a medal oh honor recipient. But, don't let him leave Texas because, reasons. He's supposedly friends with the Duttons but, doesn't want the one person who could possibly help them to show up and help?
But, yeah, the number of road blocks Spencer and Alex run into during their treks to Montana are like National Lampoon level.
Oh, you're sleeping under a tree out here? you must be a bad guy.
Though for a minute the woman marshal. was going to hang up after the sheriff didn't believe she was a marshal. Then it was yes, I know Spencer Dutton, he's a medal oh honor recipient. But, don't let him leave Texas because, reasons. He's supposedly friends with the Duttons but, doesn't want the one person who could possibly help them to show up and help?
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