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re: You want expansion? You HAD expansion
Posted on 1/2/22 at 2:32 pm to kingbob
Posted on 1/2/22 at 2:32 pm to kingbob
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It’s not a “playoff” if you win every game and still don’t get a shot at the title. That’s just an exercise in futility. That’s a rigged system, a mythical national title.
Yeah, those who rig the system are going to suddenly stop because a playoff is in place. Just how naive are you?
quote:And that's why the NFL regular season is boring.
The NFL plays 16 regular season games to determine 14 playoff spots. There’s no “eye-test” to determine who gets those spots.
quote:And that's what makes college football so great. And also why you can't try to fit that square peg into the round hole that is the NFL playoffs.
The conferences are of different sizes and vary wildly in strength. This makes individual wins and losses a difficult metric by which to evaluate teams because not all wins are created equal and teams from different conferences rarely have many common opponents.
quote:You already have that, it's called the NFL. Go watch that and stop trying to bring college football down to that level.
As said previously, I would prefer no more than 8 teams, with conference championships making up no fewer than 6 of the slots. Every team would then start the season with a real path to a championship. They would be able to win the games in front of them to get a playoff spot, and then get a chance to take down the kinds of teams that already make the “invitational” under the current regime.
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 2:36 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Good, you also see how terrible an idea a playoff is.
You can’t say they all mattered when they were sitting at home while the championship was played for.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 2:46 pm to RD Dawg
quote:Why would you want to bring college football down to that level?
every other level of FB has determined their champion through a playoff (DIII,DII,FCS,HS,NFL) Do all these folks have it wrong?
quote:Not sure what you're trying to say here. Please tell me you aren't naive enough to believe all that gets cleaned up with a playoff system.
BTW,Do you not remember the corruption,payoffs and back room deals with the old bowl system?
It was one of the most corrupt and
dishonest forms of post season play in all of organized sports.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 2:55 pm to SammyTiger
quote:13 games played on the field pretty much tells me all I need to know.
You’re right people don’t want to THINK about who is they best. They would rather the teams play and KNOW who is the best.
BTW, Alabama and Georgia have already played.
quote:Show me where I advocated for a system to pick 2 teams that they think are best.
Your shutting on 24/7 news while advocating for a system where the same people and a computer pick 2 teams they think are best.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 2:57 pm to RD Dawg
quote:Never said that. Go back and read it again.
Are you really telling me a undefeated WAC team is the exact same thing as a undefeated BIG or SEC team?
Posted on 1/2/22 at 2:59 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
13 games played on the field pretty much tells me all I need to know.
Does it? Who was better in 2004? USC or Auburn?
Who was better in 2003? LSU or USC?
13 games didn’t answer those questions and those are pretty big questions.
quote:
Show me where I advocated for a system to pick 2 teams that they think are best.
You’re advocating for the former system. Which was a pick 2
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 1/2/22 at 3:00 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
Why would you want to bring college football down
It's literally every single level of college except FBS (pre BCS)
You knew this,correct?
quote:
Not sure what you're trying to say here
Do what? Are you not aware of what
went on?
Please tell me you aren't naive enough to believe all that gets cleaned up with a playoff system. It's better BY FAR.Are you trying to tell the selection comittee is bought off? You wanna tell me how and when?
Posted on 1/2/22 at 3:04 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
Depends on the situation. How good was the PAC-12. Who did they beat in non-conference. How competitive was the SEC. Who was the 1-loss to.
So subjectivity and eye test. Got it.
quote:
See a lot of you folks don't want to have to think. You want to be told what to think.
No, we want definitive closure and head to head outcomes. We want the players on the field to determine it, not media members and voters. And yes I’m fully aware of who is currently on the committee.
quote:
It's an overall problem with our society. It's why we have 24/7 "news" channels; to tell you folks what to think so that you don't have to be bothered thinking for yourself.
I don’t disagree with you, but just what in the ever living frick does this have to do with anything?
Posted on 1/2/22 at 3:08 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
BTW,Do you not remember the corruption,payoffs and back room deals with the old bowl system? It was one of the most corrupt and dishonest forms of post season play in all of organized sports.
Not sure what you're trying to say here. Please tell me you aren't naive enough to believe all that gets cleaned up with a playoff system.
Are you saying a playoff is just as corrupt as the old bowl system? How is deciding it on the field not dramatically, and borderline infinitely, better than subjective opining.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 3:37 pm to RD Dawg
quote:
It obviously depends on their schedule and if being unbeaten
is a standard then say hello to playing as many cupcakes as
You can schedule.
I'd like to introduce you to Clemson and Washington
Posted on 1/2/22 at 3:47 pm to ExpertTestimony
You forgot
1984 Brigham Young
1990 Georgia Tech
1984 Brigham Young
1990 Georgia Tech
Posted on 1/2/22 at 3:50 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
See a lot of you folks don't want to have to think. You want to be told what to think. It's an overall problem with our society. It's why we have 24/7 "news" channels; to tell you folks what to think so that you don't have to be bothered thinking for yourself.
Says the man who want to crown champions by media votes
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 1/2/22 at 4:33 pm to TX Tiger
quote:so Bama wins the Natty again, got it
Sugar – No. 1 Alabama vs No. 5 Notre Dame
Posted on 1/2/22 at 4:36 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Wrong.
Show me where I advocated for a system to pick 2 teams that they think are best.
You’re advocating for the former system. Which was a pick 2
Posted on 1/2/22 at 4:46 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:No, you don't. You want a playoff and it doesn't matter to you what that entails.
See a lot of you folks don't want to have to think. You want to be told what to think.
No, we want definitive closure and head to head outcomes.
Alabama and Georgia have already played. But that doesn't matter to you because it's the playoffs and that's all the counts. Not the regular season, not head-to-head.
quote:Nothing, just an observation.
It's an overall problem with our society. It's why we have 24/7 "news" channels; to tell you folks what to think so that you don't have to be bothered thinking for yourself.
I don’t disagree with you, but just what in the ever living frick does this have to do with anything?
Posted on 1/2/22 at 4:48 pm to evil cockroach
quote:umm, yeah, the team that has the best season wins the Natty. What a crazy way to determine a champion, huh?
Sugar – No. 1 Alabama vs No. 5 Notre Dame
so Bama wins the Natty again, got it
Posted on 1/2/22 at 5:04 pm to StormyMcMan
quote:9 out of 10 times the media vote is a mere formality. After a 13-game playoff - the best playoff system in sports - it's pretty obvious who's the best.
See a lot of you folks don't want to have to think. You want to be told what to think. It's an overall problem with our society. It's why we have 24/7 "news" channels; to tell you folks what to think so that you don't have to be bothered thinking for yourself.
Says the man who want to crown champions by media votes
Posted on 1/2/22 at 5:42 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
umm, yeah, the team that has the best season wins the Natty. What a crazy way to determine a champion, huh?
What other sports determine their champion this way? What other levels of FB?
Posted on 1/2/22 at 5:54 pm to RD Dawg
quote:Every single lesser league, that's who.
umm, yeah, the team that has the best season wins the Natty. What a crazy way to determine a champion, huh?
What other sports determine their champion this way? What other levels of FB?
Any other brilliant questions?
Posted on 1/2/22 at 6:00 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
Every single lesser league, that's who.
WTF? Every single lesser league (God knows what this means) rewards the team with the best regular season with a championship?
Like who? Not DIII,DII or FCS or even NAIA
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