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re: WTF happened to the big east

Posted on 3/24/19 at 10:07 am to
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 10:07 am to
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The 2000s were peak Big East for me. Loved watching it growing up

That league was so stacked before it disbanded. I vividly remember how fun the tournament was at MSG. At any given time, Syracuse, Nova, Pitt, UConn, Notre Dame, West Virginia, Georgetown, even BC in some years, were all elite


The coaching in that league was

Boeheim, Calhoun, Howland/Dixon, Beilein/Huggins, JT3 (early in his tenure) were awesome. Brey is no slouch either.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9503 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 10:11 am to
I think there is still room for the Big East to become a legit 5-6 bid conference with expansion. There are solid basketball only schools out there that they could invite and make the conference better from top to bottom. They should raid the A10(14) and expand to either 14 or 16 members. Add Dayton, VCU, Saint Louis and somehow they should talk with UConn about becoming a member again. UConn should seriously consider dropping football and rejoining the Big East. Adding those 4 school would absolutely make the confernece better.

Villanova*
Marquette*
Seton Hall*
Creighton
Xavier
Georgetown
St Johns
Providence
DePaul
Butler
UConn
Dayton
Saint Louis*
VCU*

* indicates 2019 NCAA tourney bid

That would be a solid 14 team Big East.




Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61475 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 10:17 am to
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Got raided in conference realignment.




How can anyone say the BE was raided when the basketball schools from the old BE pitched a shite fit and left on their own accord?

They thought bball would be enough to keep them strong and they were wrong. They should have never broken off from the AAC schools. Their exposure and potential TV money was significantly reduced by leaving the FBS football schools.
Posted by Gator Mike
Member since Sep 2015
535 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 10:54 am to
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meh. this was a down year for the conference but theyve been fine in recent memory

This. A lot of the teams in the conference were really young, and it showed. Also didn't help that the bottom of the league was better this year than they've been in the past. Still, 90% of the league ended up in either the NCAA Tournament or the NIT, and every school finished .500 or better. I think 40% of the ACC finished the year with a losing record.

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I think there is still room for the Big East to become a legit 5-6 bid conference with expansion.

The schools in the conference are on record as being really happy with the double round robin format they've got now. I can't see them expanding by more than one or two schools.

Besides, until this year, they've been a legit 5-6 bid conference.

2018: Villanova, Xavier, Creighton, Providence, Butler, Seton Hall

2017: Villanova, Marquette, Providence, Xavier, Creighton, Butler, Seton Hall

2016: Villanova, Xavier, Providence, Seton Hall, Butler

2015: Butler, Xavier, Villanova, Providence, Georgetown, St. John's

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They thought bball would be enough to keep them strong and they were wrong. They should have never broken off from the AAC schools. Their exposure and potential TV money was significantly reduced by leaving the FBS football schools.

The schools are making more money now than they were in the Old Big East. Fewer dollars overall, but far fewer mouths to feed.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9503 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 11:19 am to
They may say they’re happy as of now, but if they could expand their footprint or add schools that would make the visibility of the conference even stronger, I guarantee they’d consider expansion. Dayton is a great basketball school with a strong following. They host the first 4 every year. GREAT basketball market and it would make a great rivalry between Xavier and Dayton being so close. VCU would also bring instant credibility to the league as well. Adding at least those two schools to the league wouldn’t do ANY damage to the league and would only make it better. I don’t care what they “say”.
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
8324 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 11:26 am to
Not to mention the coaches in the 80’s and early 90’s.
This post was edited on 3/24/19 at 11:27 am
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140861 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 11:30 am to
VCU doesn’t line up academically with the Big East schools. But I do not think they move to expand at all.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39417 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 12:09 pm to


Must watch TV in the 1980's.

It WAS college basketball.

Everyone else was second banana.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45556 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

The 2000s were peak Big East for me. Loved watching it growing up


I never really appreciated it back then but the Big East basketball was awesome.

quote:

That league was so stacked before it disbanded. I vividly remember how fun the tournament was at MSG. At any given time, Syracuse, Nova, Pitt, UConn, Notre Dame, West Virginia, Georgetown, even BC in some years, were all elite. Then it got even better when it added Louisville, Cincinnati and Marquette.


2009 when the Big East had three number one seeds and the 6 OT game between UCONN and Syracuse.

ESPN just had to mess up a good thing. ESPN just had to get butthurt and use ACC expansion to destroy the Big East.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54816 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 1:48 pm to
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ESPN just had to mess up a good thing. ESPN just had to get butthurt and use ACC expansion to destroy the Big East.
Tulane basketball destroyed the Big East
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:05 pm to
It is a completely different conference. They relaunched in 2013 after conference realignment after losing basketball powerhouses UConn, Syracuse, and Louisville.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:08 pm to
You do know it's not the same Big East, right?
This reminds of the people who tout Belichick's "success" in Cleveland and they don't realize that he was really coaching the Ravens and not the current Browns. Some of them post here actually...
This post was edited on 3/24/19 at 3:10 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45556 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

ESPN just had to mess up a good thing. ESPN just had to get butthurt and use ACC expansion to destroy the Big East.
Tulane basketball destroyed the Big East


The Big East was dead long before Tulane got there. The old Big East died the day that Syracuse and Pitt announced they were leaving. Tulane was just the last pallbearer to lower the coffin.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61475 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:40 pm to
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Tulane basketball destroyed the Big East


If the basketball schools were so opposed to Tulane they could have voted against admitting them. They didn't.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31120 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:45 pm to
Narrowly missed having an 4-for-41985 Final Four.

Nova, Gtown, StJohn.

BC got tripped up in Dallas.
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