re: Would Peyton Manning or Tom Brady Receive 100% Vote from MLB Voters

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The % it takes to get elected is 75%. First ballot or not. So why do you feel its so important that someone should receive 100% of the vote? Because you think everyone should think like you? Wtf?

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You said no one should get 100% vote. So why is it important to you that no one does? It's the same thing just the other way around

Ok


Well the history of the hall is different. I think some of the voters use the original members as a starting point. The hall has a long history of first timers and non first timers. Some people don't think voting in 10 a year is respectful to the past or the present inductees. That's kinda my point. 100% of the vote isn't required for induction so why is it such a big deal if Maddux or whoever didn't get 100%

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You said no one should get 100% vote. So why is it important to you that no one does? It's the same thing just the other way around

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Stated early dissention is a good thing IMO. Not a everyone should think like me kinda guy. I'm okay with everyone not voting for whoever, whatever their reasoning may be to a point

Edit: spelling probably and it doesn't matter about not knowing others votes. I already said I'd have vote for Maddux first ballot. I just don't think 100% is needed. If it happens so be it is my point

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Sure. A 100% HOF vote for any player says, to me anyway, that HE was the greatest player to ever play whichever sport. No flaws, no failings. When in fact every player fails and has a flaw in their play.

100% vote is a herd mentality. There is a reason these halls have a %, to account for dissenting voices, which should be welcomed.

Nothing in reality is 100% and players getting a post career award aren't either. Brady/Manning are first ballot HOF'ers, doesn't mean that EVERY voter thinks or should think that way. Doesn't make them any less of a great player

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That's fricking retarded.


There are no levels of merit....each voter has a yes or no vote. The idea a voter thinks a guy is a hall of famer but won't vote for him because no one should be 100% is beyond dumb.

LOL no.

Baseball writers are like the negatigers and the OT WNHI because she has sharp elbows posters.

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Not true. A voter can only vote for a maximum of 10 players. I'm sure some knew Maddux was a shoe in so they wanted to use that vote for someone who they thought should be in the hall, but would be left off their ballot if they voted for Maddux.

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As someone said in a previous thread, most of the guys that didn't vote for Maddux, didn't vote for 10 people.

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I'd be interested to see the ballots of the 16 writers who didn't vote for Maddux. Anyone know where I can find the known examples?

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No, they keep it secret.

Seriously.

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if you don't think peyton manning is a HOF player then you have a mental disease or are just trolling

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I said no such thing

Not did I say I wouldn't vote for him

I don't get why you or anyone else should get 100% of any vote. It's not like there are 4 guys voting, it's a pretty large number and IMO if a voter doesn't want him on first ballot so be it. I don't understand why ya'll feel it has to be all 400 voters or whatever putting him on THEIR ballot

You may think they are a moron or have a agenda but who cares? The bottom line is Maddux got in.

Well they are two totally different voting procedures so it looks like you are the one trolling

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As does the NFL...with Irvin...dude was a clear HOFer - no reason he should have had to wait.

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I hope you aren't talking about Michael Irvin. He has NO business being in the HOF. He played with a great team, HOF QB, HOF RB, yet he had mediocre stats. Cris Carter had WAY more catches, yards, and TD's and it took him years to get inducted.
There are dozens of WR's playing now who have or will have better stats than Irvin. He was an OK possession receiver, but never scored many TD's because he wasn't a game breaker. He might be the worst player in the NFL HOF. He only got in because the Cowboys won some Super Bowls. NOTHING he did as a receiver screams HOF-not his speed, his hands, or his stats. Not only that, he was a prima donna of questionable character.