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re: Worst NFL Franchises (Historically)
Posted on 2/9/10 at 11:59 pm to blueslover
Posted on 2/9/10 at 11:59 pm to blueslover
Well I did not know that.
Learn something each day
Learn something each day
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Posted on 2/10/10 at 12:27 am to Port City
Until last year it would have been the Cards with the Saints close behind (I would still say the Mecom-era Saints were the worst NFL franchise of the last 50 years). But that's all changed.
The Browns and Lions once had great teams and that shouldn't be forgotten, But narrowing it to the SB era, I think they are the finalists -- with the Lions winning the prize. At least the Falcons have been to a SB.
The Browns and Lions once had great teams and that shouldn't be forgotten, But narrowing it to the SB era, I think they are the finalists -- with the Lions winning the prize. At least the Falcons have been to a SB.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 12:35 am to Bench McElroy
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All time streaks out of the playoffs Franchise
1 New Orleans Saints 20 years - 1967..1986
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The Steelers made the playoffs for the first time in 1947, tying for first place in the division at 8–4 with the Philadelphia Eagles. This forced a tie-breaking playoff game at Forbes Field, which the Steelers lost 21–0. That would be Pittsburgh's only playoff game for 25 years
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:28 am to Kafka
The way I see it, the Saints are tied for 12th out of 32 in all-time Super Bowl wins.
Not even in the bottom half anymore.
Not even in the bottom half anymore.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 9:31 am to blueslover
Modell voluntarily left the Browns "franchise" in Cleveland. Baltimore, still bitter about the Colts, didn't want another team's history. In fact, Baltimore made one last bid for the Colts franchise name/history when the Ravens moved, only to be rebuffed.
The NFL moved in the day after Modell moved the team and promised Cleveland a new team that will still be the Browns. Which, as a Baltimorean, I consider one last middle finger to Baltimore from the NFL, who did nothing for us regarding the Colts and in fact bent over backwards to thwart our efforts to get another team (most egregiously, by rigging the expansion to make sure B'more didn't get a team).
In short, Cleveland doesn't really know what its like to lose a team.
The NFL moved in the day after Modell moved the team and promised Cleveland a new team that will still be the Browns. Which, as a Baltimorean, I consider one last middle finger to Baltimore from the NFL, who did nothing for us regarding the Colts and in fact bent over backwards to thwart our efforts to get another team (most egregiously, by rigging the expansion to make sure B'more didn't get a team).
In short, Cleveland doesn't really know what its like to lose a team.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 9:35 am to Baloo
So do most, if not all Baltimoreans share a hatred for the Indianapolis Colts or is there still old generations of loyalty? I'm sure a Super Bowl victory has helped the city embrace the Ravens, but I'm always curious as to how long it takes to develop a true fanbase.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 9:41 am to Meursault
It depends on the generation...
I think old Colt fans have moved on. they have memories of the real Colts and they don't recognize the Indy team, as the old players have embraced the Ravens and are treated as our history.
My generation still absolutely hates the Colts. Because our team was taken when we were kids and we went 13 years without a team. We have no real "good" memories to fall back on. We are, by far, the most bitter.
the youngest generation doesn't care. They are the only ones who would even think of rooting for the Colts, but only as bandwagon fans. A high school kid could wear a Colts jersey without fear of getting curb stomped now.
But no one recognizes continuity between the franchises. Johnny Unitas once successfully sued the Colts for trying to use his likeness to sell license plates. Indy has the "record book" but the players don't recognize it.
I think old Colt fans have moved on. they have memories of the real Colts and they don't recognize the Indy team, as the old players have embraced the Ravens and are treated as our history.
My generation still absolutely hates the Colts. Because our team was taken when we were kids and we went 13 years without a team. We have no real "good" memories to fall back on. We are, by far, the most bitter.
the youngest generation doesn't care. They are the only ones who would even think of rooting for the Colts, but only as bandwagon fans. A high school kid could wear a Colts jersey without fear of getting curb stomped now.
But no one recognizes continuity between the franchises. Johnny Unitas once successfully sued the Colts for trying to use his likeness to sell license plates. Indy has the "record book" but the players don't recognize it.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 9:42 am to Baloo
every time the colts come to bmore its ugly and if your dumb enough to wear colts gear you deserve whats coming.
I just thinks funny as hell the Falcons have never had back to back winning seasons
I just thinks funny as hell the Falcons have never had back to back winning seasons
Posted on 2/10/10 at 9:46 am to Baloo
I feel for ya Baloo. I'm old school enough that I still say Baltimore Colts occasionally (LA Rams too 
).
Some of my best early football memories- when Tom Matte played QB, the year when tied with GB and had to have a playoff game- lost in OT, I cried.
I thought the Saints were gonna be da shitz cuz they got Johnny U's backup. What shaft job
Bubba Smith and Bill Curry cogs that fueled Colts success that started a long line of what-ifs for NOLA.
). Some of my best early football memories- when Tom Matte played QB, the year when tied with GB and had to have a playoff game- lost in OT, I cried.
I thought the Saints were gonna be da shitz cuz they got Johnny U's backup. What shaft job
Bubba Smith and Bill Curry cogs that fueled Colts success that started a long line of what-ifs for NOLA.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 9:50 am to Baloo
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Indy has the "record book" but the players don't recognize it.
The whole "record book" thing pisses me off. I feel that the NFL was right in that Cleveland was allowed to keep the history. Just like I feel that the Houston Oilers brand should belong to the city of Houston, not Nashville. Houston got screwed.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 11:00 am to Meursault
Houston's got a case too, though the NFL did not maneuver to prevent them from getting an expansion team. But Cleveland was given a sweetheart deal: keep the Browns, lose Modell. Yet they are held up as the fanbase that suffered the most from a franchise move, when the opposite is true. they made out like bandits.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 1:29 pm to Port City
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Bucs - 33 years, .392 win %,
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Falcons - 44 years, .415%,
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Saints - 43 years, .421 win %,
The Saints have the 2nd best all time record in their divison
And I'm sure the Panthers aren't over .500Posted on 2/10/10 at 1:43 pm to Baloo
My high school's former football coach played wr for the Baltimore colts .
And that would your random fact of the day.
And that would your random fact of the day.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 1:50 pm to Guster
Which WR?
Posted on 2/10/10 at 1:59 pm to Baloo
Roger Carr.
On a side note, I also once stayed at bert jones sorta hunting camp in Texas. Ate dinner with him as well. Wasn't into football much then so didn't know who the hell he was.
On a side note, I also once stayed at bert jones sorta hunting camp in Texas. Ate dinner with him as well. Wasn't into football much then so didn't know who the hell he was.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 2:16 pm to Guster
I'd go with the Lions, espescially if you limit to the Super Bowl era, which I think you should as it is a clear line in which to draw.
Detroit has been to 1 NFC championship game, correct? The Browns top that.
Detroit has been to 1 NFC championship game, correct? The Browns top that.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 3:46 pm to Port City
Why the frick aren't the Browns up there? Bucs and Lions are poo too.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 3:50 pm to Guster
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My high school's former football coach played wr for the Baltimore colts .
And that would your random fact of the day.
I once interviewed for a job with Johnny Unitas' backup.
That's mine.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 4:08 pm to TulaneUVA
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Just couldn't put it together for some reason.
kicking and coaching
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