re: Wilder vs. Ortiz tonight!!! Showtime 9PM EST

Lennox Lewis said that's impossible to know...Just like anything else u can't compare eras , it's pointless and stupid

I purposely stayed out of here last night and the responses prove that to have been a good decision.

You guys keep doubting and clowning on Wilder and all he does is keep knocking people the frick out. You guys say he can't box. HW's don't generally box, they knock people the frick out and Wilder is the best on the planet at that. You wan't to watch "boxing" check out Garcia, Thurman, Loma, Spence or one of the those guys.

You say AJ is the bigger "draw" because retarded arse Brits will fill a soccer stadium to watch him. That is indeed a fact, but they did the same thing with Haye and Hatton and look what happend to those two paper chin mfers the first time they faced a real threat. They got completely destroyed and exposed for the posers they were.

AJ is a good fighter, I'm not trying to take that away from him. But for you guys to just crown him as the end all be all because of ONE win is laughable. Klit would have knocked his pretty arse completely out of ring 8 years ago. Hell, a 40+ y/o Klit put him on his arse and gave him all he could handle.

Hearn isn't negotiating with Wilder for ONE reason. He's smart enough to know that Wilder is good enough to bring his gravy train to an end. He's got a very marketable product and he's going to ride that horse until he can't ride no more. That's a FACT.

No fricking way could AJ have taken AJ's shots like that last night. NONE. If Wilder is such a joke why do the big boys that agree to fight him keep betting busted for PED's? If he's such a tomato can, why won't AJ bust him up and send him on his way?

Y'all are complaining about Wilder's tactics, especially last night. He kept his distance from a guy with the legitimate ability to knock his head off. Is that not part of "boxing" strategy? To me, he showed me a new part of his game and that's the ability to be a counter puncher. He's usually the aggressor, last night he let another dude play that role and took the openings that were given to him and put the guy to sleep.

He's knocked EIGHT(at the time they fought) top ten fighters plum the frick out. EIGHT. All the guy can do is play the game that's given to him and right now he's doing a hell of a job at that.

Pretty boy AJ damn sure ain't got that kind of resume.

I'll also throw this out there, Ortiz is one of the most dangerous HW's on the planet and Wilder fought him DESPITE LO not even being a mandatory. That is damn sure something pretty boy can't say.

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He CAN'T box

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Tell that to the 40 cats he's put to sleep. Scoreboard bruh, at the end of the day that's all that counts.


So, as I see this playing out AJ get's monster credit for beating a rusty over the hill HW and DW doesn't.

Hell Foreman couldn't box either but let him put one of those soup bones on your chin and watch what happens.

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You say AJ is the bigger "draw" because retarded arse Brits will fill a soccer stadium to watch him. That is indeed a fact, but they did the same thing with Haye and Hatton and look what happend to those two paper chin mfers the first time they faced a real threat. They got completely destroyed and exposed for the posers they were.

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He is the face of under armor boxing

When I got into a sports store I see AJ’s picture along with Brady and Curry

Wilder is no where near as famous as AJ

Because Povetkin got his license suspended

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Those 40 include 35 bums, his best friend (Scott), a former good fighter who was washed up when he finally decided to fight him (Arreola), another good fighter who had severe dehydration when he fought him the first time and was washed up the second time (Stiverne) and a good, but old and inactive, Cuban boxer (Ortiz) who was running away with the fight. And Wilder needed (and was given) extra time to recover by the officials looking for a "cut" that wasn't there so he could get some extra time from that arse beating he took.

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If I didn't actually watch boxing you'd have painted a very convincing picture. As it stands, I'll pass on aggregating your opinion into what I think of wilder.

He's clearly not a boxer, but as of last night he's also clearly got more heart and a much better chin than what Most thought.

Combine that with one punch power that'll put anyone in the division to sleep and you have a contender, regardless of how spastic he looks.

And if you can't at least admit that I'd argue you're nothing more than a blinded hater.

P.s. the Ortiz I saw last night was most definitely not shot.

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He's clearly not a boxer, but as of last night he's also clearly got more heart and a much better chin than what Most thought.

Combine that with one punch power that'll put anyone in the division to sleep and you have a contender, regardless of how spastic he looks.

And if you can't at least admit that I'd argue you're nothing more than a blinded hater.

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Go back and read....I gave Wilder credit for showing his toughness and stated many times that Wilder has the eraser/KO power to end fights and that it's bailed him out more than once.

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P.s. the Ortiz I saw last night was most definitely not shot.

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I never said he was shot...I said that Arreola was shot when he fought him. I said Ortiz was old and inactive.

I've yet to see anyone say that Wilder is some all time great HW (other than Wilder himself, which is promotional).


What I see is boxing fans that want to see two top guys in their division go toe to toe. And then I see you and SCH making excuses for AJ.

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This is true. It's also true that having an American in a heavyweight unifying fight will make up for a large part of that difference financially.

The split should probably be close to 50-50.

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Yea if people actually cared about Wilder, he doesn't even fight on PPV.