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re: Why is Kiffin considered a bad hire as a CF coach?
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:37 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:37 pm to LSUTANGERINE
OAK 2007 4 12 0 .250
OAK 2008 1 3 0 .250
OAK Total 5 15 0 .250
Total 5 15 0 .250
2009 Tennessee 7–6 4–4
Tennessee: 7–6 4–4
Doesn't exactly scream great coach
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:40 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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so I guess you could not answer the original question
No you just avoid other answers and pick and choose the ones you want to respond too
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:41 pm to ZZTIGERS
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OAK 2007 4 12 0 .250
OAK 2008 1 3 0 .250
OAK Total 5 15 0 .250
Total 5 15 0 .250
2009 Tennessee 7–6 4–4
Tennessee: 7–6 4–4
Doesn't exactly scream great coach
but but but but but it doesn't say bad one either! (right?)
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:41 pm to Maximus
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look at Oklahoma State's record before and during Les Miles. He is still a shitty coach.
specifically how does that make LK doomed as a CF coach?
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:42 pm to tduecen
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No you just avoid other answers and pick and choose the ones you want to respond too
could not have described your posts in this thread any better. So where did you answer the original question?
This post was edited on 7/5/10 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:44 pm to LSUTANGERINE
this thread is starting to look like a Philosophy class
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:45 pm to LSUTANGERINE
I'll repond for everone since only one person gave a response.:
There's no real evidence he is doomed as a CF head coah failure. He seems shady, ran his mouth, can be douchy, adn left UT. SO we don't like him. That tranlates into being a bad CF coach, albeit there is no tangible evidence.
There's no real evidence he is doomed as a CF head coah failure. He seems shady, ran his mouth, can be douchy, adn left UT. SO we don't like him. That tranlates into being a bad CF coach, albeit there is no tangible evidence.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:48 pm to LSUTANGERINE
So no evidence that he is shitty AND no evidence that he is worth a shite at all = CHAMPIONSHIP!!!! Got it.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:48 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Why is Kiffin considered a bad hire as a CF coach?
He thinks he is UNTOUCHABLE!! He gets a PASS at USC for the 1st three years. Not sure how good of coach he is. His ARROGANCE will be his downfall however.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:49 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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specifically how does that make him a bad CF coach?
So is this the new standard for coaching at SC? Got it.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:50 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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hat tranlates into being a bad CF coach, albeit there is no tangible evidence.
And there is no tangible evidence of him even being a remotely good college football head coach.
He took a team that was 1 season removed from a SEC Championship game appearance that the following season went 5-7 and he improved them to 7-6. Not exactly miracle worker status.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:53 pm to kclsufan
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So is this the new standard for coaching at SC? Got it.
who said that?
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:54 pm to tduecen
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And there is no tangible evidence of him even being a remotely good college football head coach.
He took a team that was 1 season removed from a SEC Championship game appearance that the following season went 5-7 and he improved them to 7-6. Not exactly miracle worker status.
and that makes him a bad coach how?
This post was edited on 7/5/10 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:57 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Why is Kiffin considered a bad hire as a CF coach?
I could see him doing well, but let's be honest...
as an outsider looking in, I think anyone's first judgement based on the situation would be Kiffin 1 - USC 0.
He's got a losing career record as a coach while just being picked up by one of the highest profile colleges in the nation.
tOSU took a chance on Tress though.
Like I said, he could end up being a great coach, but you can't question people for doubting him.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:58 pm to LSUTANGERINE
sometimes i wish you were intelligent
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:58 pm to BuckeyeFan87
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tOSU took a chance on Tress though.
apples and oranges, Tress was a proven winner at Youngstown State and had a winning resume as a college head coach - he was a good hire at that time
Posted on 7/5/10 at 1:00 pm to ZZTIGERS
Devil's Advocate:
What did Saban do to scream "great coach" prior to his tenure at LSU?
What did Saban do to scream "great coach" prior to his tenure at LSU?
Posted on 7/5/10 at 1:00 pm to Shankopotomus
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apples and oranges, Tress was a proven winner at Youngstown State
This is true, but it was AA football. I mostly agree on your point though.
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he was a good hire at that time
Many people in Ohio would have disagreed with you.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 1:01 pm to LSUTANGERINE
quote:Nobody knows for sure if he's a bad coach or a good coach--THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
and that makes him a bad coach how?
He's unproven. He's done nothing to this point to prove he deserves a third premier head coaching job and one of the best jobs in all of football. THAT MAKES HIM A BAD HIRE. You asked in your OP "Why is Kiffin considered a bad HIRE," but then when you got answers, you started asking "why does that make him a bad coach." USC can and should do better. Kiffin had a poor record at Oakland and didn't improve UT. He is a ticking time-bomb w/ his shady behavior and tendency to get sanctioned.
I could ask you what makes me a bad coach, and you'd have no way of answering it. I'd make a bad hire because I've done nothing to prove I'm a good coach. That's why Kiffin is a bad hire--he's done nothing to prove he's any good. In fact, he's actually looked pretty inept as a head coach.
This post was edited on 7/5/10 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 7/5/10 at 1:02 pm to Jamohn
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"Why is Kiffin considered a bad HIRE," but then when you got answers, you started asking "why does that make him a bad coach."
question was further clarified in the post.
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Kiffin had a poor record at Oakland
so NFL records makes college coaches poor, e/g/ Saban. Carrol?
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and didn't improve UT.
he did by two games and stats improvements were een better.
This post was edited on 7/5/10 at 1:05 pm
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