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Why is Kiffin considered a bad hire as a CF coach?

Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:18 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:18 pm
Specifically, why he is considered by most here and many in the SEC ranks to be doomed as a college football head coach failure? And don't give me the sanctions crap- the consensus here was the same before sanctions. It's not like he didn't begin go turn around UT's offense in his year there. Not to mention recruting.
Posted by emoney
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:20 pm to
I've always thought he was a pretty good coach. I agreed with his decisions in Oakland, he was just held back by Al too much. In Tennessee he had his team ready to play. I think a lot of people don't like him as a person, which I suppose is understandable, but I think he's a good coach.
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:20 pm to
Here today....gone tomorrow......and still hardly any sort of resume in terms of success as a head coach.

and he's a douchebag.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:23 pm to
he's a possible stack of TNT in terms of NCAA oversight

his father is the main part of his hire, and his father is 834 years old
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:23 pm to
Why is he a good hire? What has he ever done besides some shady recruiting (which is EXACTLY what USC needs right now btw)?
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:24 pm to
He just has done very little to warrant a high-profile coaching gig.

Kinda like the "he was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple". Especially with the cocky attitude.

He had little success at his last 2 HC spots (albeit at rebuild jobs), and lands at a power program like USC. Just doesn't make much sense.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:26 pm to
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Here today....gone tomorrow......and still hardly any sort of resume in terms of success as a head coach.

and he's a douchebag.


specifically how does that make him a bad CF coach?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:27 pm to
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Why is he a good hire? What has he ever done besides some shady recruiting (which is EXACTLY what USC needs right now btw)?


way to anwer with a question.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:28 pm to
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He just has done very little to warrant a high-profile coaching gig.

Kinda like the "he was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple". Especially with the cocky attitude.

He had little success at his last 2 HC spots (albeit at rebuild jobs), and lands at a power program like USC. Just doesn't make much sense.


specifically how does that make him a bad CF coach?
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:28 pm to
how is he a good one?

ETA: and the douchebag personality is bad for the image of your school and program
This post was edited on 7/5/10 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:30 pm to
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specifically how does that make him a bad CF coach?


His meh record?

Until proven otherwise, he's nothing special. He may not be "bad", but who's to say he's good?

We won't know the answer for 3 years anyway, but it probably won't be too tough to succeed at the program Pete built.
This post was edited on 7/5/10 at 12:31 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:31 pm to
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how is he a good one?


I think he has great upshot. Did well as OC at SC (anyone could have though). Learned from some of the best. Recuiting is great. Really began to turn UT around. He does not have enough a resume yet to be considered a "good coach". but based on what he done as a caoch and recruiter, he certainly has more pros than cons.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:32 pm to
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Why is Kiffin considered a bad hire as a CF coach?


Why would he be considered a good hire? What has he done to be considered a good hire exactly?
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:32 pm to
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but based on what he done as a caoch and recruiter, he certainly has more pros than cons.



Ed O
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:32 pm to
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His meh record?


look at UT's record and state before and during Kiffen.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:34 pm to
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look at UT's record and state before and during Kiffen.


You mean he improved them by 2 whole games, a season removed from them playing in the SEC Championship game. Man that is such a turn around, no coach in the history of coaching could have done that.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:34 pm to
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Why would he be considered a good hire? What has he done to be considered a good hire exactly?


I have already answered, which is more than you've done. You responded to a question with a question.


Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:36 pm to
Lane Kiffin is perfect for USC he can bring about more sanctions while they are already on probation and just say he did not know.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:37 pm to
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Lane Kiffin is perfect for USC he can bring about more sanctions while they are already on probation and just say he did not know.


so I guess you could not answer the original question.

Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:37 pm to
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look at UT's record and state before and during Kiffen.


look at Oklahoma State's record before and during Les Miles. He is still a shitty coach.
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