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Why is Harper continuously batting leadoff?
Posted on 5/5/18 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 5/5/18 at 12:35 pm
Today will be the 5th game in a row he’s batting in the 1 hole. Why not have your best hitter batting 3rd or 4th driving in runs?
Bit of a head scratcher...
Bit of a head scratcher...
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Posted on 5/5/18 at 12:36 pm to Tigerbait337
Posted during a 6 game win streak
Eaton, Murphy and Rendon have been hurt. Have to do what you have to do when your 2nd, 3rd and 4th best hitters are out
Eaton, Murphy and Rendon have been hurt. Have to do what you have to do when your 2nd, 3rd and 4th best hitters are out
This post was edited on 5/5/18 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 5/5/18 at 12:37 pm to Tigerbait337
Just my two cents, but a leadoff HR can shake a pitcher's confidence, and spark a rally. Even if it's only an extra base hit, having a RISP that early can't hurt.
Posted on 5/5/18 at 12:40 pm to Tigerbait337
I’m probably wrong, but wouldn’t the lead off batter get 1 or 2 more AB’s than the rest of the lineup?
Posted on 5/5/18 at 12:41 pm to Tigerbait337
He walks a ton and he's been killing it since moving to leadoff
Posted on 5/5/18 at 12:42 pm to Fus0623
quote:You're not wrong but he also plays in the NL where 3 or 4 of his ABs will come behind the pitcher spot which makes it less likely he'll have someone on base
I’m probably wrong, but wouldn’t the lead off batter get 1 or 2 more AB’s than the rest of the lineup?
Posted on 5/5/18 at 12:42 pm to Fus0623
quote:
I’m probably wrong, but wouldn’t the lead off batter get 1 or 2 more AB’s than the rest of the lineup?
How would a guy batting lead off get two more at bats than anyone else batting in the lineup? Unless the other guy was inserted as a pinch hitter
Posted on 5/5/18 at 12:45 pm to Tigerbait337
Getting your best player more AB's is never a bad thing, same reason Yankees bat Judge #2
Posted on 5/5/18 at 12:46 pm to Tigerbait337
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Why not have your best hitter batting 3rd or 4th driving in runs?
You should know by now that batting order doesn't matter. Also, Harper is an OBP machine. Maybe the Nats manager just wants his best on-base guy to get as many at-bats as possible.
Posted on 5/5/18 at 12:47 pm to Rig
quote:
You're not wrong but he also plays in the NL where 3 or 4 of his ABs will come behind the pitcher spot which makes it less likely he'll have someone on base
Nope. Nats are batting Difo (who's been killing it) 9th. P 8th.
Posted on 5/5/18 at 12:47 pm to Tigerbait337
Dude, he's hitting like .383 with 4 bombs in the 4 games he's been leading.
And they're 4-0.
And they're 4-0.
This post was edited on 5/5/18 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 5/5/18 at 12:49 pm to Bench McElroy
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You should know by now that batting order doesn't matter. Also, Harper is an OBP machine. Maybe the Nats manager just wants his best on-base guy to get as many at-bats as possible.
Batting order doesn't matter?
Batting Harper leadoff does not maximize their run production potential but it's necessary right now. Eaton and Rendon have been injured, and teams have just been pitching around himPosted on 5/5/18 at 12:53 pm to Rig
They are batting Difo 9th who has been getting on base at a crazy pace.
Posted on 5/5/18 at 12:57 pm to truthbetold
FYI for those that don't follow the Nats, LSU boy Stevenson has been getting some run, playing pretty well, and is in there again today.
Posted on 5/5/18 at 1:00 pm to Tigerbait337
Because teams are moving away from the antiquated idea that you need a little, fast guy batting leadoff, well, because they’re fast. Rickey Henderson was the GOAT leadoff hitter, not because he was fast, but because he got on base and had pop in his bat.
ETA: Rickey: Career .400 OBP/nearly 300 career HRs/over 500 career doubles.
ETA: Rickey: Career .400 OBP/nearly 300 career HRs/over 500 career doubles.
This post was edited on 5/5/18 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 5/5/18 at 1:02 pm to Tigerbait337
The Nats manager said he moved Harper to the top of the order because 1) Harper was in a slump, and 2) he wasn't getting a lot of pitches to hit.
Posted on 5/5/18 at 1:05 pm to GynoSandberg
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Batting order doesn't matter?
It absolutely doesn't matter. The difference between the best possible lineup and a typical lineup is about 5 to 15 runs which is about 0.5 to 1.5 wins over a season. That's a minuscule difference. Also, you have to think about it in a common sense way. The batting order only plays a factor in the first inning of a ballgame. For example, the leadoff hitter is only guaranteed to bat leadoff during the first inning of a game. They aren't guaranteed to bat leadoff in their second or third or fourth at-bats. Same thing with the #3 hitters. They're only guaranteed to bat third during the first inning. They might lead off an inning during the rest of their at-bats or bat second or third. Basically people spend way too much time on an issue that really isn't very important.
Posted on 5/5/18 at 1:11 pm to Bench McElroy
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It absolutely doesn't matter.
I agree to an extent. Obviously, you want your 1-5 hitters to absolutely be your best hitters, not only for more PA, but run scoring opportunities. I agree that 6-9 is largely irrelevant, because even if you try to sneak someone into that 9 hole that’s a high OBP guy, teams will figure that out pretty quick.
Posted on 5/5/18 at 1:14 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:
It absolutely doesn't matter.
quote:
The difference between the best possible lineup and a typical lineup is about 5 to 15 runs which is about 0.5 to 1.5 wins over a season.
so it does matter
here's your common snese
harper leadoffs a game, with no one in front of him to drive in, and then having the pitcher and the worst hitter on the team hitting in front of him the rest of the game doesnt matter?
As opposed to say, Adam Eaton and Rendon, guys who get on base at a career 36% clip, hitting in front of him?
Not even factoring in the lineup protection Harper in the 3 hole provides to guys in front of him vs the 9 hole/pitcher
Posted on 5/5/18 at 1:20 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:
harper leadoffs a game, with no one in front of him to drive in, and then having the pitcher and the worst hitter on the team hitting in front of him the rest of the game doesnt matter?
The pitcher isn't hitting in front of him
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