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re: Why is baseball dying?
Posted on 1/17/11 at 1:41 pm to Hullabaloo
Posted on 1/17/11 at 1:41 pm to Hullabaloo
Baseball is hell of a lot more popular than college football where I live (Baltimore). I never ever hear people talk about college football around here but MLB remains a popular topic despite the struggles of the Orioles.
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Posted on 1/17/11 at 1:55 pm to Jcorye1
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I'd like to dispute this. Dude, Japan is literally baseball insane.
baseball is popular in america, japan, and some latin/caribbean countries
basketball is popular in america, western europe, russia, and china
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Personally, I think the fact star players get to bend the rules is asinine and will hurt the sport.
happens in baseball too
top pitchers have bigger strike zones
top batters have smaller strike zones
guys perceived as good fielders won't have to do things in the field like tag 2nd on a double play
Posted on 1/17/11 at 2:29 pm to Hullabaloo
Posted on 1/17/11 at 2:37 pm to Hullabaloo
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The San Francisco Giants' five-game victory over the Texas Rangers averaged an 8.4 rating and 14 share. That matches the record low of the 2008 Phillies-Rays World Series, which also went five games, with the decisive game suspended and completed two days later because of rain.
The average rating was down 28 percent from the 11.7/19 for last year's Yankees-Phillies series. World Series Average Rating since 84
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Table of NBA Finals average Nielsen ratings since 1976 Net.? Year? Series? Rating?
CBS 1976 Boston Celtics 4, Phoenix Suns 2 11.5
CBS 1977 Portland Trail Blazers 4, Philadelphia 76ers 2 12.7
CBS 1978 Washington Bullets 4, Seattle Supersonics 3 9.9
CBS 1979 Seattle Supersonics 4, Washington Bullets 1 7.2
CBS 1980 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Philadelphia 76ers 2 8.0
CBS 1981 Boston Celtics 4, Houston Rockets 2 6.7
CBS 1982 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Philadelphia 76ers 2 13.0
CBS 1983 Philadelphia 76ers 4, Los Angeles Lakers 0 12.3
CBS 1984 Boston Celtics 4, Los Angeles Lakers 3 12.3
CBS 1985 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Boston Celtics 2 13.7
CBS 1986 Boston Celtics 4, Houston Rockets 2 14.1
CBS 1987 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Boston Celtics 2 15.9
CBS 1988 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Detroit Pistons 3 15.4
CBS 1989 Detroit Pistons 4, Los Angeles Lakers 0 15.1
CBS 1990 Detroit Pistons 4, Portland Trail Blazers 1 12.3
NBC 1991 Chicago Bulls 4, Los Angeles Lakers 1 15.8
NBC 1992 Chicago Bulls 4, Portland Trail Blazers 2 14.2
NBC 1993 Chicago Bulls 4, Phoenix Suns 2 17.9
NBC 1994 Houston Rockets 4, New York Knicks 3 12.4
NBC 1995 Houston Rockets 4, Orlando Magic 0 13.9
NBC 1996 Chicago Bulls 4, Seattle Supersonics 2 16.7
NBC 1997 Chicago Bulls 4, Utah Jazz 2 16.8
NBC 1998 Chicago Bulls 4, Utah Jazz 2 18.7
NBC 1999 San Antonio Spurs 4, New York Knicks 1 11.3
NBC 2000 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Indiana Pacers 2 11.6
NBC 2001 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Philadelphia 76ers 1 12.1
NBC 2002 Los Angeles Lakers 4, New Jersey Nets 0 10.2
ABC 2003 San Antonio Spurs 4, New Jersey Nets 2 6.5
ABC 2004 Detroit Pistons 4, Los Angeles Lakers 1 11.5
ABC 2005 San Antonio Spurs 4, Detroit Pistons 3 8.2
ABC 2006 Miami Heat 4, Dallas Mavericks 2 8.5
ABC 2007 San Antonio Spurs 4, Cleveland Cavaliers 0 6.2
ABC 2008 Boston Celtics 4, Los Angeles Lakers 2 9.3
ABC 2009 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Orlando Magic 1 8.4
ABC 2010 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Boston Celtics 3 10.6
Posted on 1/17/11 at 2:39 pm to NOTORlOUSD
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-Doesn't translate as well to video games as other sports
blasphemy - RBI baseball for NES, best video game ever (expect for maybe Super Tecmo Bowl)....
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:24 pm to tduecen
T-ducky doing work!
This post was edited on 1/17/11 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:32 pm to Hullabaloo
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Why is baseball dying?
Americans have too short of an attention span, and the beautiful game is too complex for them.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:51 pm to The Boat
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and the beautiful game is too complex for them.
who is talking about soccer?
and i've said it about 1,000 times on here, but baseball isn't nearly as complicated as football
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
I was talking about baseball.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:and you lose credibility every time you say it
and i've said it about 1,000 times on here, but baseball isn't nearly as complicated as football
you don't know nearly enough about baseball to make such a claim
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:59 pm to tduecen
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tduecen
Nice work, so much for guy who said basketball is more popular than ever!
How about that 18.7 share for the Bulls/Jazz. That is a huge number for basketball.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 4:00 pm to Rouge
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you don't know nearly enough about baseball to make such a claim
there are only so many variables on a baseball field that matter. it's nothing compared to the variables in football
the individual matchup of pitcher-hitter is unlike many you find in other sports, but there are a limited number of variables you have to worry about in baseball. the pauses help out a great deal in the analysis (this is true for football as well, but once in play the action is much more fluid. action in baseball is static)
i know you were a pitcher and you'll ride baseball's dick until the cows come home, but you have to look at it objectively
This post was edited on 1/17/11 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 1/17/11 at 4:01 pm to The Boat
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I was talking about baseball.
baseball is not beautiful nor is it the beautiful game
Posted on 1/17/11 at 4:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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baseball is not beautiful nor is it the beautiful game
I'd take MLB over NBA anyday and I'm a ROYALS fan. Can you imagine the uproar if MLB went away compared to what it'd be if the NBA went away.lol.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 4:09 pm to bayou2003
the NBA sucks
too expensive, games only matter in the last 5 minutes
too expensive, games only matter in the last 5 minutes
Posted on 1/17/11 at 4:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but there are a limited number of variables you have to worry about in baseball.
time in game, count, number of outs, type of hitter (pull, spray, contact, power, etc.), baserunners, type of pitcher on mound (power, finesse, pitch to contact, etc.)
these are only defensive considerations
like I said, you do not understand baseball enough to make such a judgement.
nobody is saying that football is not a difficult sport. at the same time, why is it still a popular idea that some of the least intelligent guys play the game
i think it could be fair to say that certain positions on a football field require superior analytical ability (QB, S) but others may no require the same levels of analysis. in baseball, every single payer on the field must take many factors into consideration on every single pitch.
This post was edited on 1/17/11 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 1/17/11 at 4:10 pm to tduecen
The NBA finals have beaten the World Series in TV ratings only three times: 1998 (the last year before Jordan's second retirement), 2008 (Lakers/Celtics) and 2010 (Lakers/Celtics again). During the Golden Age of NBA basketball (1980s, early 1990s), the NBA finals never beat the TV ratings for the World Series. Not one single time.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 4:17 pm to Rouge
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time in game, count, number of outs, type of hitter (pull, spray, contact, power, etc.), baserunners, type of pitcher on mound (power, finesse, pitch to contact, etc.)
time in game
substitutions (not really a fluid part of baseball or soccer)
type of opponent (individually)
formation changes (not found in baseball)
how the players lined up within formation
football has
down/distance (in football)
set plays
basketball has
fouls
set plays
soccer has
no breaks. it requires complete, constant focus/attention
then within the play, there is more action than baseball. you are limited in what you do on offense in baseball, due to the nature of the game. the runner will go to 1st. then 2nd. then 3rd. then home. in football/basketball/soccer, there is 360-degree movement (within the lines of the field)
Posted on 1/17/11 at 4:18 pm to Bench McElroy
What in the happy horsefrick is going on in this thread?
Posted on 1/17/11 at 4:21 pm to Hullabaloo
Love college baseball, love it. HATE the MLB. If I could support a fund that gets rid of the MLB I would. WAY WAY WAY to frickin long, far to many teams that don't matter, no such thing as "team" with all the trades and such, overpaid players.
This post was edited on 1/17/11 at 4:21 pm
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