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re: Why did we need to get rid of computer rankings in order to have a playoff?
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:57 pm to Madking
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:57 pm to Madking
So tiger rant trolls? 
LSU played so poorly in the natty that several teams could’ve played them close. But I still doubt Okie state would’ve pulled it out.
LSU played so poorly in the natty that several teams could’ve played them close. But I still doubt Okie state would’ve pulled it out.
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:58 pm to KosmoCramer
He’s talking about 2011 Oklahoma state
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:59 pm to Sun God
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He’s talking about 2011 Oklahoma state
That's what I get for jumping into a conversation that isn't mine.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:01 pm to KosmoCramer
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:04 pm to Madking
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OSU had NFL players in their secondary meaning they could play man 1 and zero, load the box with 8-9 and play run all night if they wanted to.
Oklahoma st had the 90th ranked run defense in the country that year giving up 184 yards per game. If Georgia, the 11th ranked run defense got worn down and gashed in the 2nd half of the SEC game, Oklahoma st would’ve been like literally running through a wet paper bag for Lsu.
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Also if you give any half decent DC a month to prepare for JJ they were gonna shut him down.
A month? Arkansas and Georgia both accomplished it in 1 week. Didn’t make any difference.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:04 pm to Sun God
No argument from me, we def could’ve beat them. What I’m saying is they could’ve beat us as well but most of the same fans who predicted we were 10 points better than Bama will tell you it’s not possible. Which is false, OSU was as good or better on O than WVU and they put up 550 and more than enough to outscore JJ when we faced them.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:06 pm to Open Your Eyes
No such thing as transitive logic in football. It’s about matchups especially after the Holliday break.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:07 pm to Madking
How many did we beat by WV by again?
Our game all year was turnovers and Wing and an above average rushing offense. Doubt OK state could’ve handled us
Our game all year was turnovers and Wing and an above average rushing offense. Doubt OK state could’ve handled us
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:12 pm to Madking
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No such thing as transitive logic in football.
“OSU was as good or better on O than WVU and they put up 550 and more than enough to outscore JJ when we faced them.”
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It’s about matchups especially after the Holliday break.
So osu was suddenly going to create matchups to have a good defense after the holiday break? Somebody should’ve let them know that before they gave up 243 yards to rushing yards in their bowl game.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:13 pm to Madking
quote:Well now we’re both idiots
B- the dirty little secret no LSU fan wants you to know about 2011, Oklahoma State probly beats us with jordan Jefferson at QB in that title game.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:15 pm to castorinho
quote:Are the AP and coaches not falling in line more than ever with the committee?
castorinho
Not that it would change things THAT much.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:16 pm to Open Your Eyes
First I wasn’t using stat “rankings” as an absolute simply showing that a team that ran the exact same offense moved and scored on that defense. Not the same as your transitive logic it’s a style and matchup illustration
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:17 pm to ReauxlTide222
Anyone who thinks JJ could beat a contender without question is simply wrong. Not only is that team the only one to not score in a title game but we didn’t pass the 50 until late in the game. OSU would’ve had a very good chance.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:20 pm to Madking
2011 is one of the best teams I’ve ever seen. It’s football so of course it wouldn’t be a sure thing that y’all would win. But I definitely do think y’all would have won the NC over Oklahoma State.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:23 pm to ReauxlTide222
I think pre JJ you’re absolutely right, post-JJ not so sure. 2011 was great on D and on ST but was terrible on offense, average even with Lee. 03 was better and 2/3 other LSU teams were better in my opinion.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:24 pm to Madking
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Anyone who thinks JJ could beat a contender without question is simply wrong
What the frick
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:24 pm to Madking
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First I wasn’t using stat “rankings” as an absolute
No, you just used the total numbers from 1 game instead of an entire season’s worth instead. That’s definitely better.
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simply showing that a team that ran the exact same offense moved and scored on that defense
They scored 21 points.
The only times Lsu scored less than 35 that season were the 2 bans games and miss st.
Meanwhile, I proved that one of the best run defenses in the country couldn’t hold up for an entire game against lsu’s run game. And you’re in here arguing one of the worst run defenses would.
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Not the same as your transitive logic
Correct. my transitive logic is using an entire season’s worth of data while yours uses 1 game.
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it’s a style and matchup illustration
Can’t wait for your explanation of oklahoma st’s bowl game run defense after all those style and matchup advantages they discovered over the holiday break.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:28 pm to Open Your Eyes
You keep insisting I was referring to numbers as an absolute and transitive measurement when I wasn’t. I didn’t know you were playing gotcha but I explained that the reason I referenced the WVU game is because OSU ran the same offense with better or equal personnel. The fact that you keep using transitive logic coupled with the fact that you continue to bring up OSUs defensive performances while ignoring LSUs Offensive shutout just proves not only goal post moving but double standards.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:29 pm to Sun God
What do you meant WTF? There’s irrefutable proof, he lost to a contender.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:29 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:Yeah the AP and coaches correct the following week after the CFP. (for the most part. For example lsu is still #1 in those). And of course the Harris didn't always morror the AP, which is now used as a substitute when doing the BCS simulation
Are the AP and coaches not falling in line more than ever with the committee?
Not that it would change things THAT much.
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