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re: Why can't Nebraska replicate the Osbourne success?

Posted on 2/18/21 at 7:25 am to
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30359 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 7:25 am to
They can no longer pay Prop 48 kids from the ghettos of LA and Miami and have them just coast on through school. They also had to end their East German style steroid program.
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8637 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 7:30 am to
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Im sure this has been discussed a shite ton


Only once every couple months.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 7:34 am to
Nebraska is sorta like Tennessee. 2 college football powers that have started to fade away. Nebraska ain't coming back. Let's see what Tennessee can do.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72175 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 7:49 am to
Never is a long time but Nebraska has more stacked against it than any other traditional Top 15 program.

I’d wager their biggest issues have been the elimination of proposition 48, the dissolution of the walk-on program, and county scholarship program. The rise of small FCS programs really siphoned off that talent.

Others have mentioned no longer having a TV advantage or strength and conditioning advantage. Those are huge as well.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51253 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:12 am to
I feel like this thread is posted once a month.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
18762 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:27 am to
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the campus is probably good


Lincoln is a shite hole. Campus included. This coming from someone who has spent far too much work travel to there in the past few years
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:37 am to
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Nebraska doesn’t have a natural recruiting base. When Osbourne was there it was a National brand, they could recruit anywhere. 18 year kids today have no memory of Nebraska being a premier program.

It’s tough to sell Lincoln, Nebraska compared to a dozen other college campuses.






Texas recruiting. being in the big 8 put Nebraska on tv in the texas tv markets
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12727 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:40 am to
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Texas recruiting. being in the big 8 put Nebraska on tv in the texas tv markets


There were zero Texas schools in the big 8.

I’d imagine all the Texas TVs tuned to the swc.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12617 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:42 am to
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Nebraska ain't coming back.


Depends on what you mean by coming back.

The solution I think for Nebraska is simple- go to the Big XII, offer to join if another team- Cincinnati, Colorado State or BYU is added with you in a new North division (not UCF because UCF would be a powerhouse in a P5)

Big XII North
Kansas State
Kansas
Iowa State
West Va
Colorado State
Nebraska

Nebraska could win that division regularly with just top 30 recruiting classes which they still pull. Maybe upset Oklahoma in the conference title a few times. If not, they still go to big bowls.

I don’t care where a program is. If you can get 80K+ fans to show and your program is one of the premier programs in its conference, you can be top 15. Winning a national title is another animal.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:47 am to
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I’d imagine all the Texas TVs tuned to the swc.


the swc was a garbage conference
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19182 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:58 am to
More emphasis on recruiting and Lincoln is a looong way away from any halfway decent talent pools.

That and rule changes regarding scholarships are the two biggest factors. There are others that had some effect, but those two put the nail in the coffin.
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8637 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:23 am to
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Lincoln is a shite hole. Campus included. This coming from someone who has spent far too much work travel to there in the past few years



I like Lincoln...

By no means is it a great city, and my exposure is limited to CFB Saturday only, but it was clean, well laid-out, and had plenty of bars/restaurants.
Posted by Woodreaux
OC California
Member since Jan 2008
2790 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:20 am to
Be a part of the Big-8.

Play an annual game against the OU the Ever-Over-Rated (knock on wood; they might actually bring a defense in 2021).

Enjoy a balanced, game rule set which inherently rewards defenses for aggression, initiative, strength and brutality by allowing defensive players to do their jobs.

Recruiting methods others mentioned.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12377 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:36 am to
All the things mentioned in this thread have contributed to their decline but one omission is the fact they had a legendary, visionary head coach in Osborne. They haven't had anything close to that since. Osborne, for all the hypocrisy he had with him, was a great head coach and developer of the talent he had.
A great coach on his level isn't even needed to be better than they are though. Iowa St and Minnesota are better programs than they are now and they aren't exactly in recruiting hotbeds. Nebraska has made bad hires chasing names. When Pelini is the best they've had since Tom that tells you something.
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