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re: Why can’t major division 1 basketball players make free throws?
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:33 am to burdman
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:33 am to burdman
This is a perception issue.
Historical studies have shown a dirty little secret about FT%-- its essentially historically flat, varying by about 2% over the last 6 decades. You'll have good ones, you'll have bad ones, but what changes is the volumes of FTA, not the success of the shooters.
Historical studies have shown a dirty little secret about FT%-- its essentially historically flat, varying by about 2% over the last 6 decades. You'll have good ones, you'll have bad ones, but what changes is the volumes of FTA, not the success of the shooters.
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Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:13 am to BoardReader
NO ONE practices it anymore. And like the guys said earlier.......doesnt make the highlights.
I used to coach my son's team...... they were 7/8 years old. I said they couldnt shoot 3's.(could barely hit the rim anyway).
I had a Mom yell at me that it was not fair that I wouldnt allow her son to shoot 3 pointers during a game.
I said I would rather them work on lay-ups and free throws and mid range shots.
She said NO BODY CARES ABOUT THAT.
I used to coach my son's team...... they were 7/8 years old. I said they couldnt shoot 3's.(could barely hit the rim anyway).
I had a Mom yell at me that it was not fair that I wouldnt allow her son to shoot 3 pointers during a game.
I said I would rather them work on lay-ups and free throws and mid range shots.
She said NO BODY CARES ABOUT THAT.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:19 am to BoardReader
quote:
Historical studies have shown a dirty little secret about FT%-- its essentially historically flat, varying by about 2% over the last 6 decades. You'll have good ones, you'll have bad ones, but what changes is the volumes of FTA, not the success of the shooters.
Well that makes sense. The more that are being shot, the more that will be missed and it'll actually seem that they're worse at shooting them, which as the poster before you demonstrated, is not the case.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:24 am to gsvar2004
Its not celebrated.
If much were made of it then kids would learn.
Dunks are highlights.
If much were made of it then kids would learn.
Dunks are highlights.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:28 am to gsvar2004
Back in my day, all the players were great at FTs.
Now nobody can hit em.
Dagnabbit.
Now nobody can hit em.
Dagnabbit.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:30 am to ReauxlTide222
It used to be a “big man problem”
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:39 am to Hoops
Updated my post to go back to the 1997-98 season (as far as the source I used goes back) and it's still on the rise.
Teams, on average, are basically shooting 4% better than they were 20 years ago
Teams, on average, are basically shooting 4% better than they were 20 years ago
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 10:45 am
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:57 am to gsvar2004
quote:
Ft could have been the difference had they made them.
Or committed a couple less fouls...
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:06 am to wildtigercat93
quote:
I believe the advance stats have shown that being a good FT shooting team isn’t that much of an advantage over an average FT shooting team
Really? I can remember about 10 games from the Rick Stansbury era at State alone that would have been wins instead of losses if we could have at least made 80% of them.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:28 am to burdman
Can you see how many players are shooting <70% that would be interesting to notice trends
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:30 am to Hoops
That would be. Can probably find it somewhere. Maybe if my afternoon is slow I'll try to find it.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 1:23 pm to gsvar2004
This thread is a bar full of the old guys who watch a couple games come tournament time and start yapping like they're students of the game.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 1:50 pm to Hoops
quote:
Can you see how many players are shooting <70% that would be interesting to notice trends
I could only find a reference where I could get 80%+ and only starting in 2008-09.
# of players who shot 80%+ from FT by year:
08-09 - 129
09-10 - 163
10-11 - 159
11-12 - 137
12-13 - 134
13-14 - 181
14-15 - 141
15-16 - 181
16-17 - 183
17-18 - 210
Posted on 3/23/18 at 3:21 pm to burdman
That’s pretty good. Thanks
Posted on 3/23/18 at 3:28 pm to dirtbag lsu
quote:Love how this post came right after someone posted the fricking stats.
NO ONE practices it anymore.
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 3/23/18 at 5:22 pm to wildtigercat93
Advanced stats and analytics tell you what happened they don’t tell you why it happened. Thats the fatal flaw with relying to heavily on metrics.
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 3/23/18 at 5:27 pm to Madking
quote:well that's not true at all. They don't tell you what happened. Regular, face value stats do that. They tell you what should have happened and they usually tell you why. That's kind of their whole point
Advanced stats and analytics tell you what happened
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 3/23/18 at 6:18 pm to WestCoastAg
False
Posted on 3/23/18 at 6:20 pm to Madking
Not at all 
They literally exist to tell you why something happened. I mean that's their whole point of existence
They literally exist to tell you why something happened. I mean that's their whole point of existence
Posted on 3/23/18 at 6:25 pm to WestCoastAg
No they don’t, basically they take subjective factors and incorporate them into your basic stats but in no way do they tell you why something happened. Ask any coach or listen to any player and they’ll tell you the same.
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