re: Why can't folks just enjoy both the NHL and NBA playoffs?

No you're the idiot to make a specific statement and I showed you that certain regions are more into hockey.

You can generalize it but you doubled down on your idiocy.

The NHL as the NBA is an international sport.

Just because you can't figure the NBA is not most popular in every region right now. I mean I'm not the idiot who thinks LeBron is most powerful athlete in the world like you did.

To the OP: you found the type of person who can't just enjoy it. They try to read the tea leaves and look at every little tick as a sign for winds of change. I'm too drunk to fight with him.

Dude, more people watch NBA pre and post games shows than the fricking gazillion overtime game 7 with a pedigree team. GTFOH with that nonsense.

This was from last year. Stanley cup finals vs conf finals in a market with teams in both.

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May 31, 2016 12:05pm EDT Monday night was always going to be a trip to TV ratings sadness for the NHL; the league and NBC are relient on good showings from local markets. San Jose, already weak as far as those numbers are concerned, is also part of the San Francisco-Oakland market, and sports fans there had, uh, better things to do. Lo and behold, the numbers are in for Game 1 of the Stanley Cup Final, and they are ... not great.

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Monday night was always going to be a trip to TV ratings sadness for the NHL; the league and NBC are relient on good showings from local markets. San Jose, already weak as far as those numbers are concerned, is also part of the San Francisco-Oakland market, and sports fans there had, uh, better things to do. Lo and behold, the numbers are in for Game 1 of the Stanley Cup Final, and they are ... not great. MORE: The best photos from the Stanley Cup Final — Overall, it got a 2.8 overnight rating. That's down from a 4.2 for last year,'s Game 1, which was fueled by the Chicago market, and the worst since the 2.4 Kings-Devils got in 2012. For context, CBS ran a rerun of something called "Scorpion," which your aunt probably watches, and it got a 2.6. "The Bachelorette" pulled in a 4.4. — On TNT, Golden State and Oklahoma City were pulling in an 11.2, the NBA's highest-ever cable overnight. — Most of all, in the Bay Area, Thunder-Warriors curbstomped Sharks-Penguins. None of that should matter to folks who watched the hockey game last night. Many, many more people care about the NBA than the NHL. Stephen Curry is more popular in the United States than any hockey player could dream to be. That's life, and it's OK. MORE: Nick Bonino is Game 1's hero Don't bother saying "it's a Game 7 vs. a Game 1," because it's just as easy to say "it's a conference final vs. an actual final." Don't be insecure. It isn't your problem. If Sharks-Penguins doesn't go six games or so, it'll be a problem for the league — but again, not you! Like what you like, and let other people like what they like. Unless they like trying to explain away their favorite sport's crappy TV ratings. Then, you are allowed to tell them that what they like is bad.

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They're not even in the same galaxy. This is like looking through the Hubble telescope and thinking Jupiter isn't really that big but it's just because it's so far away.

Now let's stop arguing about this. I'd rather argue Lebron v Jordan.

You're making statements and said NO competiton.

Go look at ratings in specific cities and there is competition. You're not smart enough to get my point so whatever.

I blew your argument out of the water and you're still arguing. Take your lumps and go home. I gave you a specific city that had two teams playing on the same night.

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The NHL is a regional sport. The NBA, major-league baseball and the NFL are at national league.

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I tend to agree with this. If you think about it, all three leagues have regional coverage of the professional teams in that region. For me (in South Carolina), I get regional coverage of the Braves, Panthers, Hurricanes, and Hornets. However the difference is the national coverage each sport has. The NFL has Fox, NBC, CBS, and ESPN. MLB has Fox and ESPN. NBA has ESPN/ABC and TNT. The NHL has only one major network and that is NBC but most of the games are broadcast on NBCSN. They are not even broadcast on the main channel majority of time.

Will this get you to exit the thread and just have a beer and enjoy the games?

Pittsburgh had higher ratings for the NBA finals than Stanley cup finals

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Pittsburgh doesn’t have an NBA team, but more people in the area are watching the NBA Finals than the Stanley Cup final. Television ratings in the Pittsburgh area showed the first three games of the NBA Finals between Cleveland and Golden State easily outdrew the Stanley Cup of Tampa Bay and Chicago. True, Game 3 and 4 of the Stanley Cup were on a cable station (NBC Sports Network), but even when the games were on NBC, they had lower ratings than the NBA Finals. The average Pittsburgh area ratings for the first two Stanley Cup games on NBC (WPXI) were 4.6 and 3.8. The area ratings for Game 2 and 3 of the NBA on ABC (WTAE) were 5.5 and 6.19. The average rating for Game 3 of the Stanley Cup on NBC Sports Network was 1.97.

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If anything the NHL needs to expand the playoffs. At one point they had 21 team in the league with 16 making the playoffs. They need to expand to 24 teams with the first round being a quick 3 game series using a 1-1-1 format over four days. It's possible and doable.

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how would it exactly benefit putting 24 teams in the playoffs?

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Picture in picture for Directv is awesome

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Love DirecTV for precisely this reason

Again you are taking the national. Now break it down by say certain places just because you are showing last year doesn't mean this year.

There's competition

You're being stupid

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