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re: Why Bama would have a better resume than Texas if both win their conference
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:02 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:02 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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And for whatever idiot is bringing up Oklahoma, if they had the same record as Texas they would be ranked ahead.
So again, you concede that what happens outside of the single head to head matchup matters when it comes to ranking teams.
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Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:03 pm to Jon Ham
You are literally too stupid to insult.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:05 pm to Jon Ham
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How is it fair to give one game absurdly more weight than the other 12 games, especially when it comes to the other 12 games, Bama would be undefeated, Texas has a loss, and Bama would have 4 wins over top 25 compared to Texas’ one top 25 win?
Suppose two teams have a 7-1 conference record. Team A played the top two teams in the other division and team B played the bottom 2 teams in the other division; however, team B beat team A. Which team wins the division?
Why should your scenario be any different than every other tie breaking formula in the history of tie breaking formulas?
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:05 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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FFS. Nobody is claiming the Big12 is better.
They are saying Texas’ 12-1 record would be “the same” as Bama’s 12-1 record and therefore Texas’ win over Bama is the “tiebreaker.”
But they aren’t the same.
3 wins vs top 15 compared to 1 win vs top 15.
One loss to a one-loss team compared to one loss to a two-loss team.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:06 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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You are literally too stupid to insult.
Says the guy who argues for ranking teams based on the result of one game out of 13.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:06 pm to Jon Ham
Yeah cuz Texas win against Bama should be wiped away from existence, right?
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:07 pm to midnight_chopper
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Why should your scenario be any different than every other tie breaking formula in the history of tie breaking formulas?
We aren’t “breaking a tie.”
We are evaluating the strength of each complete resume.
Team A: 3 top 15 wins, 1 loss to a one-loss team
Team B: 1 top 15 win, 1 loss to a two-loss team
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:09 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
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Yeah cuz Texas win against Bama should be wiped away from existence, right?
LOL it’s the other side who is wanting to ignore game results, not me. I’m saying let’s consider every one of the 13 games. The other side wants to greatly discount, if not completely ignore, 12 games.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:14 pm to Jon Ham
Texas crushed a 6-6 team 57-7
Bama needed a miracle to beat a 6-6 team
Bama needed a miracle to beat a 6-6 team
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:16 pm to Jon Ham
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We are evaluating the strength of each complete resume. Team A: 3 top 15 wins, 1 loss to a one-loss team Team B: 1 top 15 win, 1 loss to a two-loss team
Except the complete resume ignores the fact that Team B beat team A. In the history of college football, there has always been a premium on head to head results. Of course, I understand that the subjective part of the equation is fluid and subject to change to fit whatever argument is strongest for Alabama, so I understand where you are coming from.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:18 pm to Jon Ham
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LOL it’s the other side who is wanting to ignore game results, not me. I’m saying let’s consider every one of the 13 games. The other side wants to greatly discount, if not completely ignore, 12 games.
Damn I feel dirty that you’re making me defend Texas. But that argument only holds water when the two teams did not play and we are trying to compare hypothetical results. We have an exact head to head comparison so that is not really relevant
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:19 pm to Jon Ham
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Says the guy who argues for ranking teams based on the result of one game out of 13
So to be cleared based on your argument, the 2007 NE Patriots should have been declared NFL champions because they had a better, far better resume than the NY Giants.
Right??
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:23 pm to midnight_chopper
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Except the complete resume ignores the fact that Team B beat team A.
You just mean that you don’t like that when people consider the whole resume, they aren’t giving absurdly more weight to the result of one game that favors team B when the complete resume clearly shows that team A had a better season. And you don’t like that because of some subjective feeling of “what’s fair” while not considering the unfairness of your methodology.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:25 pm to midnight_chopper
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We have an exact head to head comparison so that is not really relevant
So OU over Texas it is.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:27 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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So to be cleared based on your argument, the 2007 NE Patriots should have been declared NFL champions because they had a better, far better resume than the NY Giants.
Right??
Delete this before anyone else sees it, and try again.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:31 pm to Jon Ham
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Delete this before anyone else sees it, and try again
That’s literally your entire argument for Bama being in over Texas.
Explain how it’s different
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:35 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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That’s literally your entire argument for Bama being in over Texas.
My argument is what the CFP committee has always said. They look for the 4 best teams based on resume.
I’m saying Bama has a better resume.
I’m not even going to try to address whatever point you were trying to make by comparing this to NFL postseason.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:38 pm to Jon Ham
Is this troll?
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:40 pm to Strannix
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Is this troll?
I think people are trolling me. No one can honestly argue that Team B has a better resume than Team A when:
Team A: 3 top 15 wins, 1 loss to a one-loss team
Team B: 1 top 15 win, 1 loss to a two-loss team
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:42 pm to Jon Ham
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I’m not even going to try to address whatever point you were trying to make by comparing this to NFL postseason.
You mean you’re not even going to try to address what happens when your thought process is applied to literally any other circumstance than the very specific one you think you built it around.
Just like you you’re not even going to try to address the tcu-Michigan game last year.
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