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re: Who's more important to the Patriots: Brady or Belichick?
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:25 pm to trackfan
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:25 pm to trackfan
2006 there was no welker, moss or stallworth (people forget that he was fricking awesome in 07)
2008 was an identical team
2010? Pssssh, wasn't even the same fricking team.
why did you skip 09
2008 was an identical team
2010? Pssssh, wasn't even the same fricking team.
why did you skip 09
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Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:27 pm to trackfan
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and notice the difference
1. the colts were in tank mode. Manning wasn't the only significant injury that year
2. I do notice the difference, bill belichick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jim Caldwell.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:30 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I'm just saying, Belichick prime > Shula's last 12 years.
that's fine
but you still said Marino had 'no coaching'
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:32 pm to cas4t
no offense to the Donald, but marino tossed 48 TDs in just his second year in the pros
that would be unreal in today's pass happy NFL
Marino certainly extended shula's career. Dan was a prick though, he had a selfish loser mentality and that's why he never won a super bowl.
that would be unreal in today's pass happy NFL
Marino certainly extended shula's career. Dan was a prick though, he had a selfish loser mentality and that's why he never won a super bowl.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:32 pm to trackfan
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Brady missed 2008 due to injury and the Patriots didn't miss a beat. That tells you who's important.
Didn't miss a beat? They went from 16-0 and blowing teams out week in and week out and being referred to as tGOAT to 11-5 in the matter of 1 year. Big difference in those 2 teams.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:33 pm to DelU249
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, but marino tossed 48 TDs in just his second year in the pros
goddamn this is something I didn't realize
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he had a selfish loser mentality and that's why he never won a super bowl.
I did know this though
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:37 pm to DelU249
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:37 pm to DelU249
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2. I do notice the difference, bill belichick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jim Caldwell.
Exactly! The Patriots won 11 games without Brady while the Colts only won two games without Manning.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:39 pm to trackfan
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Exactly! The Patriots won 11 games without Brady while the Colts only won two games without Manning.
The Colts were in full tank mode, and that Patriots team almost went perfect the year before.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:40 pm to trackfan
no team goes to 6 superbowls in 14 years on one man's back
did it ever occur to you that they are both great, or better yet...dependent on one another. why does their relationship have to be one sided and not symbiotic?
did it ever occur to you that they are both great, or better yet...dependent on one another. why does their relationship have to be one sided and not symbiotic?
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:42 pm to trackfan
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Exactly! The Patriots won 11 games without Brady while the Colts only won two games without Manning.
this has been addressed, dude
do you know the Patriots average margin of victory from the year before? go check it out
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:45 pm to cas4t
you could argue given the era that dan marino's ruthian season is still the best ever
5,000 yards (the first and only until 2008 when drew brees passed for 5,000 yards under a friendlier set of rules and still didn't break the record. record stood until 2011. 27 years)
48 TDs (a record until 2004 when peyton manning tossed 49 with two HOF receivers and a HOF runningback)
and he did this in his second year in pro football out of fricking pitt
5,000 yards (the first and only until 2008 when drew brees passed for 5,000 yards under a friendlier set of rules and still didn't break the record. record stood until 2011. 27 years)
48 TDs (a record until 2004 when peyton manning tossed 49 with two HOF receivers and a HOF runningback)
and he did this in his second year in pro football out of fricking pitt
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:48 pm to cas4t
I don't follow the logic of using the 2011 colts
we're arguing who is more important, belichick or brady. Cassel coming in and playing equally as good or better would be valid, but it's a huge dropoff
of course the patriots won 11 games, no one is arguing that belichick is some fricking amateur
we're arguing who is more important, belichick or brady. Cassel coming in and playing equally as good or better would be valid, but it's a huge dropoff
of course the patriots won 11 games, no one is arguing that belichick is some fricking amateur
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:49 pm to trackfan
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Exactly! The Patriots won 11 games without Brady while the Colts only won two games without Manning.
Many people believe the 2011 Indianapolis Colts tanked the season on purpose to get Andrew Luck at #1. And it makes sense because they went from 2-14 in 2011 to 11-5 and a playoff appearance in 2012 with a rookie starting at QB.
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:51 pm to RollTide1987
it doesn't make sense because the coaching staff lost their jobs
The real difference is that jim Caldwell might as well be simple jack compared to belichick
The real difference is that jim Caldwell might as well be simple jack compared to belichick
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:54 pm to DelU249
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Cassel coming in and playing equally as good or better would be valid, but it's a huge dropoff
exactly
16-0 almost doesn't even do it justice. You have to remember how badly they were beating everyone they played.
1 1:00 PM EDT September 9, 2007 New York Jets W 38–14 1–0 Giants Stadium CBS Recap
2 8:15 PM EDT September 16, 2007 San Diego Chargers W 38–14 2–0 Gillette Stadium NBC Recap
3 1:00 PM EDT September 23, 2007 Buffalo Bills W 38–7 3–0 Gillette Stadium CBS Recap
4 8:30 PM EDT October 1, 2007 Cincinnati Bengals W 34–13 4–0 Paul Brown Stadium ESPN[a] Recap
5 1:00 PM EDT October 7, 2007 Cleveland Browns W 34–17 5–0 Gillette Stadium CBS Recap
6 4:15 PM EDT October 14, 2007 Dallas Cowboys W 48–27 6–0 Texas Stadium CBS Recap
7 1:00 PM EDT October 21, 2007 Miami Dolphins W 49–28 7–0 Dolphin Stadium CBS Recap
8 4:15 PM EDT October 28, 2007 Washington Redskins W 52–7 8–0 Gillette Stadium Fox Recap
9 4:15 PM EST November 4, 2007 Indianapolis Colts W 24–20 9–0 RCA Dome CBS Recap
10 Bye
11 8:15 PM EST[52] November 18, 2007 Buffalo Bills W 56–10 10–0 Ralph Wilson Stadium NBC Recap
12 8:15 PM EST November 25, 2007 Philadelphia Eagles W 31–28 11–0 Gillette Stadium NBC Recap
13 8:30 PM EST December 3, 2007 Baltimore Ravens W 27–24 12–0 M&T Bank Stadium ESPN[a] Recap
14 4:15 PM EST[53] December 9, 2007 Pittsburgh Steelers W 34–13 13–0 Gillette Stadium CBS Recap
15 1:00 PM EST December 16, 2007 New York Jets W 20–10 14–0 Gillette Stadium CBS Recap
16 4:15 PM EST[54] December 23, 2007 Miami Dolphins W 28–7 15–0 Gillette Stadium CBS Recap
17 8:15 PM EST December 29, 2007 New York Giants W 38–35 16–0 Giants Stadium NFLN[b] Recap
only 4 games that they didn't win by double digits
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:55 pm to DelU249
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you could argue given the era that dan marino's ruthian season is still the best ever
5,000 yards (the first and only until 2008 when drew brees passed it under a different set of rules)
48 TDs (a record until 2004 when peyton manning tossed 49 with two HOF receivers and a HOF runningback)
and he did this in his second year in pro football out of fricking pitt
this alone makes you wonder how he never won a SB. Bad attitude or not. The man was unbelievable.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:56 pm to RollTide1987
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Many people believe the 2011 Indianapolis Colts tanked the season on purpose to get Andrew Luck at #1.
many people might even be an under exaggeration
I'd classify this as "well-known"
Posted on 2/2/15 at 4:00 pm to cas4t
yup, only 4 teams were within one score, and 2 of those were just the result of garbage points
a few close games (some of them garbage point results for the loser) also made people forget how dominant the 2009 saints were
2009 saints and 2013 seahawks are the 2 best super bowl winners post division realignment IMO. the 2014 patriots are up there too, past week 4 it was somewhat overlooked how badly they were crushing motherfrickers.
a few close games (some of them garbage point results for the loser) also made people forget how dominant the 2009 saints were
2009 saints and 2013 seahawks are the 2 best super bowl winners post division realignment IMO. the 2014 patriots are up there too, past week 4 it was somewhat overlooked how badly they were crushing motherfrickers.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 4:03 pm to cas4t
just the most naturally talented quarterback ever to live...jimmy Johnson has accused him of being lazy...and I don't doubt him despite dan's numbers simply because dan came in and just lit it up from the word go
he had the size, the arm strength, the release and the natural mental skill to process things quickly...if there was manning or brees like devotion, he'd probably have enough rings to fit on one hand.
he had the size, the arm strength, the release and the natural mental skill to process things quickly...if there was manning or brees like devotion, he'd probably have enough rings to fit on one hand.
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