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Who is the next to face Wilder?

Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:16 am
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:16 am
I do not think he invokes the rematch at this time, public really does not want it and the gate wont be as big.

I think if Kownacki wins on March 7th that is the fight, to put in line with winner of AJ vs Fury, if that is ever made. Kownacki and Wilder are both Heyman guys with PBC.

Possibly Whyte? But I am not sure Whyte can bring the right type of publicity for general public to repair the reputation.

Maybe Ruiz to get in line with AJ? Any fight that he has with AJ is now definitely in London.


Of those three options Whyte and Ruiz are the sure fire wins. Kownacki has the power to send him down, but he is nowhere near the danger of AJ or Fury.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 11:19 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:18 am to
Could see him vs Ruíz so they could really hype of their redemptions

He also called out Ruíz before this fight
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:20 am to
Ruiz gotta be 400 pounds by now
Posted by 21JumpStreet
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:22 am to
Jon Jones
Posted by WHATDOINO
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:26 am to
He needs a new training camp. One that will challenge him to be a better boxer.

The guys he has havent challenged him at all to get any better and rely too much on that showstopper right hand.

Problem is, there are guys that can avoid it. Fury is one of them.

Wilder would be best suited to go back to the drawing board and reevaluate his camps. Work his way back up with a little different training and meet whoever's on top once and if he can make it back there
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 11:28 am
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:34 am to
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He needs a new training camp. One that will challenge him to be a better boxer.


Breland did all he could with him, he can not remake his style. His right hand of the gods is what got him and kept him there, as well as being protected and ducking AJ.

The "I was going through things" is on par with his camp making excuses for him. He may be going through things, but he always has an excuse for poor showings. Heyman will move on from him I think if Kownacki wins on the 7th.

I think he just needs to not go to 230 plus and hope he does not run into a fighter that has skill like AJ, Fury, or sometimes Kownacki in a title fight.
Posted by Coach Buzzcut
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:35 am to
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Of those three options Whyte and Ruiz are the sure fire wins


Of the three options, every one of them can actually box, which is troublesome for Wilder
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 12:04 pm to
Yea Wilder probably takes a ton of damage vs Whyte

That’s a terrible match up for him

Whyte is a beast
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 12:08 pm to
Whyte is just a big guy, he has not impressed to this date. I would like to see Whyte, Kownacki, Ruiz, and Wilder have a tournament winner to face off vs unified champion.


Whyte vs Kownacki
Ruiz vs Wilder
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 12:11 pm to
His only loss is to AJ and he beat AJ when they were amateurs

He can box and has heavy hands
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 12:14 pm to
I have only seen him twice

Both times he went to decisions both at O2, once with guy Kownacki fights next week and some Aussie guy. Whyte is the big Jamaican right? I just want to make sure I am talking about same guy. He was the kickboxer guy right?
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Coach Buzzcut
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 12:14 pm to
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Whyte is a beast


I second this, he can throw hands. He had AJ wobbling in the 2nd round whenever they fought.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 12:32 pm to
If Ruiz can come into a fight in good shape and not a fatass like his last outing against Joshua, I believe he has the boxing skills, chin and pop in his punches to give Wilder all he can handle.

In that first fight with Joshua he showed he can take a big punch from a big man and respond in kind. I wouldn't sell that bowling ball of a boxer short when it comes to trading blows, because it's a known fact Wilder can't really box for shite.
Posted by WHATDOINO
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 12:33 pm to
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Breland did all he could with him, he can not remake his style. His right hand of the gods is what got him and kept him there, as well as being protected and ducking AJ.




You're saying a lot of things here. Wilder definitely can be fixed with the correct trainers. Those trainers got enamoured with that right hand and havent challenged him to do what's needed.

Fury realized his camp wasnt sufficient and make the change. Look at what difference it made. Hundreds of fighters change styles.


They sometimes revert back to what got them there but they can be trained.

His camp protected him feeding him trash cans and the last few fights he has needed a hand of God to bail him out of losing efforts.


Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 12:35 pm to
He'll fight Fury again in November...
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 12:41 pm to
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He'll fight Fury again in November...




only for the check bc he stands no chance

jumping right back in there is a terrible idea
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:05 pm to
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He'll fight Fury again in November...


Doubt it seriously. Who's going to promote it now that Wilder has been exposed? Who's going to buy it or promote it like a PPV event since it will not sell near the views it did this last time.

From what I've read and the little I've seen in clips, Wilder was totally dominated by Fury and only Glen Feldman gave Wilder 1 round, the second in their rematch. The other 2 judges had it a shut-out in Fury's favor.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 1:17 pm
Posted by crimson crazy
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:06 pm to
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The "I was going through things" is on par with his camp making excuses for him. He may be going through things, but he always has an excuse for poor showings. Heyman will move on from him I think if Kownacki wins on the 7th.


He fought with a seriously injured elbow. Basically fought the whole match with one arm. If you knew anything about boxing it was obvious. Fury is still the better boxer but Deontay was far from 100%
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:09 pm to
LMAO he had injured elbow. And yes I know boxing. As always the excuses now are coming. If he was injured like you claim he moves the fight back and Heyman doesn’t allow him to go out. Learn something about Al Heyman before you make excuses. Heyman wouldn’t let his cash cow go out injured no matter how much of a criminal he is.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 1:11 pm
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:12 pm to
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He fought with a seriously injured elbow


And you are privy to this, how? Fighters and their camps will often make excuses when their fighters lose, and do so as badly as Wilder did to deflect the fact their fighter simply isn't as good as they were thought to be.
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