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re: Who are the sleeping giants in college football?

Posted on 5/18/13 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 2:46 pm to
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Jesus. When is the last time that the aggies even went to a bcs bowl? or the national championship?? ill let you get back to me on that one.


Pretty sure a lot of people are only looking at the schools recruiting base.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 2:49 pm to
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Oklahoma State


no.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 3:00 pm to
UCLA and Cal could both be powerhouses. The problem is that neither institution is going to make a commitment to becoming a football power. Their facilities are mediocre at best. They are unwilling to pay for outstanding coaches. And the cost of living around either school is outrageous, so the assistant coaches can't live near the campuses.

There is more than enough talent in California for them to be successful. The education available at either one is first rate. They are within metropolitan areas that have all the cultural and artistic attractions you could imagine. They are also located where outdoor activities are practical all year.

It all comes back to institutional commitment. And the focus of both schools has always put academics ahead of athletics.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 3:02 pm to
That kills your argument. The fact that Stanford has the success they do despite all the innate disadvantages they have to overcome is the antithesis of a "sleeping giant".

The Longhorns are the epitome of a sleeping giant. One national title in the last 43 years? Are you kidding me? With their recruiting base, resources, facilities, political power, etc that is nothing less than embarrassing. No school has done less with more than Texas.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 3:12 pm to
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The Longhorns are the epitome of a sleeping giant. One national title in the last 43 years?

They don't win national titles but I wouldn't say they're "sleeping".
This post was edited on 5/18/13 at 3:13 pm
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 3:13 pm to
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They don't win national titles but I wouldn't say they're "sleeping".


They're definitely half asleep then.
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 3:15 pm to
Maryland

Arizona State
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 3:16 pm to
They've sucked the last couple years but they have 2 top 5 finishes in the last 5 years. I'd say a sleeping giant is somebody off the map that routinely struggles to get 6-7 wins. That ain't Texas.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 3:18 pm to
Colorado
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
33251 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 3:20 pm to
UNC would be if they decided to invest money in their football.

Good school, good recruiting base.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 3:20 pm to
I honestly think that it is a little tougher teams outside the south to rise from mediocrity to a powerhouse.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 3:24 pm to
Stanford and Oregon recruit nationally. USC and UCLA can clean up Cali and be there. There is no reason CU Boulder can't recruit nationally either - great University and location.

Baylor could get there with some defensive talent and conference trending down.
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 3:29 pm to
20 years ago CU won with players from Texas, Louisiana and Cali. If they can't get it going, they have no chance. The Admin would have to change significantly.

Maryland is the sleeping giant.
This post was edited on 5/18/13 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 3:32 pm to
Maryland.

-- Great recruiting base of Maryland/DV/NoVa with no real local competition.
-- Can go north into Pennsylvania and poach recruit with the recent knee capping of Penn St.
-- Just had a huge influx of cash which pretty much wiped out all of their debt and are poised to make a lot of money in the Big Ten
-- Under Armour is emotionally and financially invested in their success like Nike and Oregon.
-- Some tradition. They won a national title in the 50s, was really good in the 80s, and at least has some foundation to build on
-- The closest national power is Ohio St. And they ain't that close.
-- No longer plays in the ACC, a conference that sucked the mojo from FSU in the 90s and Miami in the 00s.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 3:34 pm to
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They're definitely half asleep then.




AH. NO...........

Texas will STILL out recruit most teams in the country. Its a top 5 coaching job and is in Austin...... Texas is NOT asleep at all. They just need a new coach.............
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 3:36 pm to
UVA if they can keep in-state kids like Blanding every year.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13947 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 3:37 pm to
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AH. NO........... Texas will STILL out recruit most teams in the country. Its a top 5 coaching job and is in Austin...... Texas is NOT asleep at all. They just need a new coach.............


We are on the same page. Texas should be a giant. The are just no performing to capability.

A true sleeping giant is a team in the dumps that could be a power team.
Posted by noladan
new orleans
Member since Nov 2003
3806 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 3:45 pm to
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Not slimy enough to get dirty and good down south.

Nice......

I knew I could count on you!
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
59044 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 4:07 pm to
Cal

Maryland

North Carolina-if they ever took football as serious as basketball, I truly believe they could become a force in CFB
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63068 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 4:48 pm to
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Oh and just because atm has one good year, they have already passed us?? is that what i see?? Jesus. When is the last time that the aggies even went to a bcs bowl? or the national championship?? ill let you get back to me on that one.


There there little bro. Mack an DeLoss will right that ship eventually
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