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re: Which backup QB made you cringe when they had to play?
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:04 pm to TigerBait1127
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:04 pm to TigerBait1127
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Arguably the 2nd best QB in Saints history
lolwut????
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:09 pm to TigerBait1127
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67 Ints
That's a lot of smiling like a fricking moron.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:20 pm to sms151t
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:45 pm to TigerBait1127
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He was a good starting QB for a short span. Arguably the 2nd best QB in Saints history
Fourth at best. Archie and Bobby both made Pro Bowls.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:48 pm to sms151t
Tyrod Taylor threw two pick 6's in the final 2:30 of week 16 game last year. Cost me the fantasy super bowl.
I hate that guy.
I hate that guy.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:53 pm to TigerBait1127
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Name the best QB's in Saints history and compare them to Aaron Brooks
He finished in the top 10 in passing yards from 2001-2004. Top 5 in TDs in 2001 and 2002 (7th in 2003). Had the lowest interception rate in the NFL in 2003.
He had 60 game winning drives, 76 comebacks, and led the Saints to a top 10 offense from 2001-2004.
From 2000-2004:
107 TDs/67 Ints
16,274 yards
1,129 yards rushing for another 11 TDs
It's definitely arguable that Brooks is our second best QB. I would actually agree with you that he is. You have to remember, most of our "real fans" didn't give a shut until about 2006.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:54 pm to Choupique19
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Tyrod Taylor threw two pick 6's in the final 2:30 of week 16 game last year. Cost me the fantasy super bowl.
I hate that guy.
I'm pretty sure it was just one pick-six. Regardless, that last couple minutes was an absolute disaster if you were going up the Patriots defense in fantasy.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:56 pm to sms151t
Jimmy Clausen
Tony Pike
Brian St. Pierre
2010 was horrendous
Tony Pike
Brian St. Pierre
2010 was horrendous
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:56 pm to hoopsgalore
Rick Clausen, LSU
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:00 pm to Akit1
Gabbert
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:02 pm to sms151t
3 pages and no one has said Tebow?
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:06 pm to ptra
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3 pages and no one has said Tebow?
Tebow wasn't so bad. He had all the intangibles and leadership qualities in the world, he was just out of his league in terms of passing. But you can't say he didn't make things happen in Denver, if only haphazardly.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:08 pm to maine82
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Fourth at best. Archie and Bobby both made Pro Bowls.
Bobby made the Pro Bowl while playing as a dirty bird. That takes away points in my book
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:11 pm to TigerBait1127
It is definitely arguable that Brooks is the 2nd best all time in Saints history (which is pathetic, but it is what it is).
You can make an argument for Archie or Bobby, but lots of people that barely saw either of those guys play exalt them.
Bobby really wasn't that good. He was a pretty average QB.
Brooks, while doing ridiculously stupid things, also put up some really good stats.
You can make an argument for Archie or Bobby, but lots of people that barely saw either of those guys play exalt them.
Bobby really wasn't that good. He was a pretty average QB.
Brooks, while doing ridiculously stupid things, also put up some really good stats.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:14 pm to TigerBait1127
True but in the six full seasons that Hebert started in New Orleans, he averaged 10.3 wins. In the four full seasons that Brooks started, he averaged 8 wins, and while that doesn't include the 2000 season and the playoff win, that also doesn't include the 2005 flame-out.
Hebert had 4 10-game win seasons and Brooks had none. Brooks does have the playoff win but Hebert had 4 playoff appearances. Their QB rating for their careers is about the same, Hebert just a touch lower.
I would still list Archie Manning 2nd because the teams he had around him were absolutely horrendous and I can't blame him for that. But if you're asking me to place someone 3rd, I would place Hebert. As much of a clown as he is, I think people forget that Hebert was a pretty solid QB.
Hebert had 4 10-game win seasons and Brooks had none. Brooks does have the playoff win but Hebert had 4 playoff appearances. Their QB rating for their careers is about the same, Hebert just a touch lower.
I would still list Archie Manning 2nd because the teams he had around him were absolutely horrendous and I can't blame him for that. But if you're asking me to place someone 3rd, I would place Hebert. As much of a clown as he is, I think people forget that Hebert was a pretty solid QB.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:15 pm to Fun Bunch
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Bobby really wasn't that good. He was a pretty average QB.
Brooks, while doing ridiculously stupid things, also put up some really good stats.
Hebert QB rating: 78.0. Brooks QB rating: 78.5. When you average everything together, there isn't really that much of a difference.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:19 pm to Tiger1242
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I have these things called eye balls, and my eye balls
This gives me a terrible mental image.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:21 pm to maine82
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Hebert QB rating: 78.0. Brooks QB rating: 78.5. When you average everything together, there isn't really that much of a difference.
Except that Bobby had his 2 best years in QB Rating with the Falcons. Aaron Brooks had a much higher QB Rating as a Saint
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:22 pm to maine82
Also, I think the stats argument is unfair to Archie because in those days, all the QBs had rough TD-INT and QB rating stats compared to today's QBs.
Just as a comparison:
Archie Manning: 125 TDs/173 INTs/67.1 QB Rating
Terry Bradshaw: 212 TDs/210 INTs/70.9 QB Rating
Bob Griese: 192 TDs/172 INTs/77.1 QB Rating
Joe Namath: 173 TDs/220 INTs/65.5 QB Rating
Roger Staubach: 153 TDs/109 INTs/83.4 QB Rating
Johnny Unitas: 290 TDs/253 INTs/78.2 QB Rating
Staubach and Unitas are clearly the best, but Manning beats Namath on QB rating and is not far behind Bradshaw. Manning's curse was that he played with vastly inferior talent.
Just as a comparison:
Archie Manning: 125 TDs/173 INTs/67.1 QB Rating
Terry Bradshaw: 212 TDs/210 INTs/70.9 QB Rating
Bob Griese: 192 TDs/172 INTs/77.1 QB Rating
Joe Namath: 173 TDs/220 INTs/65.5 QB Rating
Roger Staubach: 153 TDs/109 INTs/83.4 QB Rating
Johnny Unitas: 290 TDs/253 INTs/78.2 QB Rating
Staubach and Unitas are clearly the best, but Manning beats Namath on QB rating and is not far behind Bradshaw. Manning's curse was that he played with vastly inferior talent.
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