re: Where is Flacco in your NFL QB hierarchy?

5-8 range

offensive line - saints

offensive scheme - saints (pass) baltimore (run)

playcaller - saints

better backs - so you're telling me PT, sproles, and ingram > rice and bernard pierce? going with little ray on this one

better TE - graham > pitta, but pitta isn't some lowly TE. he's coming along just fine

better receivers - anquan boldin and torrey smith > marques colston and lance moore. I'm a saints homer til the day I die, but you honestly think saints have the better receiving corps? Sure they've been with brees since '06, but speed and athleticism ravens are better.

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offensive scheme - saints (pass) baltimore (run)

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Saints averaged the same amount of ypc as the Ravens.

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better backs - so you're telling me PT, sproles, and ingram > rice and bernard pierce? going with little ray on this one

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Rice is the best back in that group, but Pierce is a rookie and didn't really start getting many touches til the end of the year. They have no one else of of any note at the RB position. The Saints are deeper and more diversified at the position. I'd put it as as a push.

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better TE - graham > pitta, but pitta isn't some lowly TE. he's coming along just fine

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Graham is a top 5 tight end and David Thomas a solid number two tight end. Yeah Pitta started to come along this year, but he's not in the top 10 of tight ends in the league and hell may not even be in the top 15.

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better receivers - anquan boldin and torrey smith > marques colston and lance moore.

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lol wut? Boldin and Smith as solid and all, but neither are true number one at this point. The Saints' receiving corps wasn't as deep as it was the year before with the loss of Meachem, but let's be real, you have to factor in Pierre Thomas and Sproles because they are great pass catchers out of the backfield.

If you looking at the starting 11's outside of the QBs, the Ravens have the better starting back and the better number 2 receiver (Smith over Moore, but only because of Smith's elite speed), but 7-8 of the other players are clearly better for the Saints.

Don't forget that even because Payton wasn't on the sidelines, it's not like he his gameplan wasn't used and he had no impact on their playcalling at all. If you seriously believe he had NOTHING to do with their gameplans or gameday operations, you are delusional. With all of the tech available today, he could call the game and run the practices from a poolside bar in Brazil if he wanted to.

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Brees threw like 28 INT this year and his team was riding couch while flacco was throwing bombs...

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Wow because he wasn't playing constantly from behind on the team with the worst defense in NFL history and without a head coach or anything like that. Some people on this site really open your eyes to how dumb people are out there.

Flacco should currently be ahead of Big Ben also.

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Brees set the record for highest completion percentage in a season dipshit

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while also having the most attempts, making it far more impressive

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Brees set the record for highest completion percentage in a season dip shite


while also having the most attempts, making it far more impressive

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We could be up all night waiting for him to come up with a rebut to this

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Brees set the record for highest completion percentage in a season dip shite


Cool. What has he done lately?

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Well that was within the last two seasons, so I'll say that

Care to try again?

ETA: Pathetic

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Well that was within the last two seasons, so I'll say that

Care to try again?


This about where a player is now, not where he was in 2011. Flacco can just physically make plays that Manning, Brees, and Brady can't. Manning/Brees/Brady aren't making that 65-70 yard throw downfield to Jacoby Jones. They don't have the arm strength. Hell Rodgers might not even have it. Flacco should have been sacked about 6-7 times last night, but was only sacked two, maybe three times and that was because of his mobility. Brees/Brady/Manning would have been on the turf.

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You mean about where a player was a whole entire season ago?? Even if you are right about Flacco's surprising mobility, you already showed you don't know shite about Brees. The fact that you didn't even know he set an NFl record last year tells me all I need to know about you

Alright man whatever you say. Congratulations on your extensive knowledge of football. You didn't make an arse out of yourself at all, I swear

People are actually arguing Brees Vs Flacco. HOLY frickING shite.