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re: When did ESPN start declining?

Posted on 10/30/15 at 7:11 pm to
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 7:11 pm to
Not that I love Olbermann, but Sportscenter hasn't been the same since he tag-teamed with Patrick.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 7:11 pm to
The ESPN people think they liked was the same as it is now...the tail end of the 90s was the beginning, early 200s it was exactly what it is now

Replace sec with big 10, USC and big 12. The Miami dick sucking was legit. Miami was freaking legit great.

All debate all the time, since the early 2000s
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 7:15 pm to
Hiring Jeremy Schaap was not exactly a high point.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29239 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 7:33 pm to
First take started out as cold pizza. It took a little while to morph into the abomination that is first state.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10184 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 8:11 pm to
When they started talking about politics, political correctness, gays and fake racism. Sports fans don't want to hear that shite, just keep it about sports.

I can't remember the last time I watched anything on ESPN other than a live game. I don't even watch the gameday or halftime shows, I change the channel to something else.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 8:20 pm to
I love ESPN for college football coverage but that's all. I get baseball at MLB channel and it's much better, and NFL on NFL channel. Sportscenter covers too much basketball and golf for me. The constant debate shows are exhausting and not fun.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 8:22 pm to
And I may never forgive ESPN for leading the charge in pimping Alabama in 2011. The network was obsessed with keeping Okie out of the NC game
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:07 pm to
I started drifting away from them during the 1997 "hype the hell out of Charles Woodson at all costs" campaign. That was the first (and definitely NOT the last) time that they didn't even try to hide their bias / agenda. It got to insufferable levels during the 2005 "USC 3 peat - greatest team of all time" stupidity. Texas winning the Rose Bowl on January 1, 2006 was easily the most that I've ever celebrated a win not associated with the Saints or the Tigers.

Re: Tom Mees....still the best elbow in the business. RIP, Tom LINK
This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 10:27 pm
Posted by OU812
Greensboro, NC
Member since Apr 2004
12594 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:16 pm to
When they started with all the political correctness and pop culture garbage. The NFL is heading in that same direction.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:31 pm to
The TMZ esque coverage of everything Tebow was definitely a turning point of sorts. Also when Stump the Schwab got cancelled. Loved that show.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23159 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:00 pm to
To me it was when sportscenter gave the results before the highlights. What would I watch the highlights if I know team A won
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:46 pm to


Jim Rome was specifically brought in to ESPN to bring down the age of their audience. Released memos reveal how he was promoted as getting huge numbers with young black and Hispanic listeners.

This is when the target demo of TV sports began to shift from Joe Sixpack to Brian Xbox.

The screamer (so called "debate") shows continued to bring the hyped-up confrontation vibe of talk radio to TV sports. Throw in the Political Correctness that has been around since before Bill Clinton but has really entrenched into power since Obama, and you have today's ESPN.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:06 pm to
Good post
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:27 pm to
quote:

Jim Rome was specifically brought in to ESPN to bring down the age of their audience. Released memos reveal how he was promoted as getting huge numbers with young black and Hispanic listeners.

This is when the target demo of TV sports began to shift from Joe Sixpack to Brian Xbox.

ESPN2, which Rome's show was on, was ESPN's attempt to be "hipper, edgier" thus the graffiti logo. Every TV network trying to be successful wants to shift their viewers to a younger demographic and rightfully so.
Also Xbox didn't exist until 3 years after that Rome show was off-air.
This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 11:28 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:45 pm to
quote:

ESPN2, which Rome's show was on, was ESPN's attempt to be "hipper, edgier" thus the graffiti logo
Yes. And while ESPN2 was brought back somewhat from total high schoolocity (they got rid of the Godawful graphics), ESPN1 gradually embraced the idea more and more
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Every TV network trying to be successful wants to shift their viewers to a younger demographic and rightfully so

That's not exactly what happened. Rather than stay with their target demo while letting the viewers themselves move on, they shifted their target to a different demo. And their target demo itself is not getting younger
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Xbox didn't exist until 3 years after that Rome show was off-air
I didn't feel like researching what video games were popular 20 years ago

And besides, I like "Brian Xbox". I predict he will soon join Yankee Doodle, Uncle Sam, and GI Joe in the Hall of American Icons.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:00 am to
Honestly, I didn't notice how bad it had gotten until this past summer. They are full blown communist and not even discreet about it.

Sadly, as long as they continue to carry my college football they are my master.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15968 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:08 am to
quote:

The TMZ esque coverage of everything Tebow was definitely a turning point of sorts

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the TO coverage, especially after he got to Philly. The debate shows were kind of fun until they and SC focused on the TO-McNabb relationship 100 times a day and Sal Paolantonio was giving hourly updates from Eagles practice.

The TO stuff was when I remember thinking ESPN had finally jumped the shark and it was before anyone knew who Tebow was.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27454 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 12:12 am to
The product outside of the actual sports broadcasts has turned into hot garbage. There was a time when ESPN was a go to and I managed to grab at least one airing of sports center in the early evening before the nights games after I got off work and tuned in during the later evening before going to bed. Not anymore and its not because of the availability of content and analysis on the internet, its because they chose to become an entity that focus on the individuals/talking heads that deliver sports instead of the sports themselves.
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