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re: What should the Jags defender have done on the Gronk hit
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:53 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:53 pm to lsupride87
Not hit him in the helmet.
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:53 pm to RollTide1987
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Perhaps instead of launching himself at Gronk, he could have remembered back to his earliest days of pee wee football, and attempted the most basic of tackle techniques: wrap-up.
When did he launch? He was running to tackle a 270 lb dude who was lurching forward. If anything Gronk initialed the helmet to helmet conduct. They need to be able to review and at least TRY to gauge flagrant intent on these ( better than just automatically getting the call). If it’s a bang bang play guys shouldn’t get penalized due to football being too fast for the referees
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:02 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:He didn't. Gronk hit him in the helmet
Not hit him in the helmet.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:05 pm to lsupride87
Incorrect. Gronk was trying to land.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:08 pm to lsupride87
I thought that flag was BS too.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:10 pm to TbirdSpur2010
[quote]Gronk was trying to land.[/quote/]
This is where I feel for the defenders because how are they supposed to account for where the receiver’s head is going to end up in such a bang bang play? It does seem like the defenders are at too much of a disadvantage at times.
Not only that, tell Gronk to be more human. The only way to not bounce off is to hit him in the knees or the head.
This is where I feel for the defenders because how are they supposed to account for where the receiver’s head is going to end up in such a bang bang play? It does seem like the defenders are at too much of a disadvantage at times.
Not only that, tell Gronk to be more human. The only way to not bounce off is to hit him in the knees or the head.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:11 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Gronk may have been trying to do whatever he wanted
However, gronks helmet is leading in front of his body
The defenders shoulder is leading in front of his body
Gronk is the cause of the helmet contact
However, gronks helmet is leading in front of his body
The defenders shoulder is leading in front of his body
Gronk is the cause of the helmet contact
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:16 pm to lsupride87
Give me a break. The mental gymnastics some of y'all want to jump through on this is insane.
Gronk is running straight ahead, jumps to try to catch the ball, is landing and gets popped in the head while so doing. Church initiates the contact. It's an obvious penalty. Not even up for debate really.
If a Pats player had done that to a Jag receiver and no flag had been thrown, people would scream bloody murder. And they'd have a legit point.
This is ridiculous
Gronk is running straight ahead, jumps to try to catch the ball, is landing and gets popped in the head while so doing. Church initiates the contact. It's an obvious penalty. Not even up for debate really.
If a Pats player had done that to a Jag receiver and no flag had been thrown, people would scream bloody murder. And they'd have a legit point.
This is ridiculous
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:18 pm to lsupride87
You don't think 42 could have wrapped him up and tackled him? Look at your still shot. It's on the defender to tackle correctly. That's why the rule is there.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:21 pm to JuiceTerry
I think the rule is insane that you can't aim for a receivers chest, lead with your shoulder, and then get flagged because the helmets collide after the receiver dips lower lowering his head into yours...
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:21 pm to JuiceTerry
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You don't think 42 could have wrapped him up and tackled him? Look at your still shot. It's on the defender to tackle correctly. That's why the rule is there.
Damn. I hate agreeing with you on things.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:22 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:I am not arguing the jags got screwed....
Give me a break. The mental gymnastics some of y'all want to jump through on this is insane.
Gronk is running straight ahead, jumps to try to catch the ball, is landing and gets popped in the head while so doing. Church initiates the contact. It's an obvious penalty. Not even up for debate really.
If a Pats player had done that to a Jag receiver and no flag had been thrown, people would scream bloody murder. And they'd have a legit point.
This is ridiculous
I am arguing the rule and what is expected is ridiculous
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:22 pm to lsupride87
That's bullshite. That was shoulder to chest. God I hate the NFL. Such pussy arse shite.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:23 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:When you wrap up you lead with your shoulder correct?
You don't think 42 could have wrapped him up and tackled him? Look at your still shot. It's on the defender to tackle correctly. That's why the rule is there.
If he goes to wrap up, and gronks helmet dips lower, it's still a penalty....
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:24 pm to lsupride87
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the helmets collide after the receiver dips lower lowering his head into yours...
Again, Gronk was LANDING. Probably would have fallen. This isn't like a RB lowering his helmet is the hole and using it as a battering ram on a defender. That's bs IMO.
Gronk was the definition of a defenseless receiver there. Didn't see Church with enough time to react at all.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:26 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:Whats your point?
Again, Gronk was LANDING. Probably would have fallen. This isn't like a RB lowering his helmet is the hole and using it as a battering ram on a defender. That's bs IMO.
Gronk was the definition of a defenseless receiver there. Didn't see Church with enough time to react at all.
If the defender goes to "wrap up", and Gronk falls like you said and their helmets hit, they are still throwing the flag....
The only way the defender can win here is to pull back and let Gronk catch it and fall
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:30 pm to lsupride87
quote:He should have lead with his left shoulder, taking helmet to helmet out of the equation. Instead, he committed a foul.
When you wrap up you lead with your shoulder correct?
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:33 pm to castorinho
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have a Pats uniform on.
Post of the season.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:34 pm to lsupride87
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If the defender goes to "wrap up", and Gronk falls like you said and their helmets hit, they are still throwing the flag....
Their helmets aren't hitting if he aims lower with the other shoulder.
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The only way the defender can win here is to pull back and let Gronk catch it
Incorrect. A different hit could easily separate receiver from ball without helmet to helmet contact. Happened a couple of times on other plays in that same game IIRC.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:45 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:Please explain how the defender knows where Gronk is going to put his head...
Their helmets aren't hitting if he aims lower with the other shoulder.
Only way to guarantee for the most part is go for the knees....
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 8:46 pm
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