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re: What is a scenario(s) that keeps 13-0 Wisconsin out of the playoff?
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:15 pm to Tiger Prawn
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:15 pm to Tiger Prawn
quote:
If Wiconsin and Bama finish as unbeaten conference champions, they're in.
13-0 Wisconsin is not in over 11-1 Notre Dame.
They could both get in, though. Wisconsin is battling against the SEC Championship Game loser and the Big 12 champion, if an Armageddon situation occurs.
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:18 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:Bro.
Well, I wasn't counting FSU for Clemson. So make that 10.
Francois didn't die the week before the Alabama game
Alabama played a motivated FSU team with Deandre Francois at QB.
Clemson gets the exact opposite. Why would you give Clemson another bowl team win?
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:19 pm to Tiger Prawn
quote:
If Wiconsin and Bama finish as unbeaten conference champions, they're in.
So who are you taking out in this scenario then?
13-0 SEC Champion (Alabama or UGA)
11-1 Notre Dame
12-1 ACC Champion Clemson
12-1 Big XII Champion Oklahoma
All those teams have shots at bigger marquee wins than Wisconsin does down the stretch, and all are already ranked higher than Wisconsin.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:20 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
Bro.
Francois didn't die the week before the Alabama game
Because it would be a win against a team that made a bowl. Pretty simple.
It's a stat.
I already said in a previous post that the committee chair has already said they will weigh Alabama's Week 1 win over Florida State differently than they would for a team that beat Florida State in Week 9.
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:21 pm to beaverfever
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an undefeated big 10 champ
These aren't all created equal. Going undefeated in the Big 10 West and doing it in the East are two different animals.
UW should get credit for beating the teams on their schedule. Being a conference champion should matter when the resumes are very similar.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:22 pm to bigpapamac
If it comes down to a scenario like that, whatever decision the committee makes could reshape big time football in the future
If they put Wisconsin in, it basically takes away any real advantage to scheduling good OOC games.
Leave Wisconsin out, and I think it ramps up the OOC scheduling across the country. No contender or middling team is going to want to waste a prime year of contending for nothing because their schedule is dogshit
If they put Wisconsin in, it basically takes away any real advantage to scheduling good OOC games.
Leave Wisconsin out, and I think it ramps up the OOC scheduling across the country. No contender or middling team is going to want to waste a prime year of contending for nothing because their schedule is dogshit
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:24 pm to BayouBengals03
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13-0 Wisconsin is not in over 11-1 Notre Dame.
They could both get in, though. Wisconsin is battling against the SEC Championship Game loser and the Big 12 champion, if an Armageddon situation occurs.
I don't think a 13-0 P5 champion would be left out unless there were 4 other undefeated teams among ND and P5.
But I hope you're right because I think an 8 team playoff is the ideal size and having a 13-0 Big Ten champion left out of the playoffs might be what gets the ball rolling on expansion.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:24 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:How?
Because it would be a win against a team that made a bowl.
Blackmon led FSU isn't a bowl team..
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:25 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:
If they put Wisconsin in, it basically takes away any real advantage to scheduling good OOC games.
quote:
Leave Wisconsin out, and I think it ramps up the OOC scheduling across the country.
So, "contenders" for the CFP should not schedule away games against teams coming off 60 wins in a span of six seasons? Because that's when BYU and Wisconsin agreed to a series.
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:25 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:
Again, this isn't nearly as simple as strength of schedules and conference championships like some people are making it out to be. These are humans in a room who view a lot of things and try to dive into every single detail to come up with their top 4.
Yeah their subjectivity can be frustrating at times, but I think they've selected properly at the end every year.
I'd also be genuinely surprised if we're dealing with a 13-0 Wisconsin team at the end of the year anyway.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:27 pm to bigpapamac
quote:
So who are you taking out in this scenario then?
13-0 SEC Champion (Alabama or UGA)
11-1 Notre Dame
12-1 ACC Champion Clemson
12-1 Big XII Champion Oklahoma
All those teams have shots at bigger marquee wins than Wisconsin does down the stretch, and all are already ranked higher than Wisconsin.
1. 13-0 SEC champ
2. 12-1 Oklahoma
3. 13-0 Wisconsin
4. Either 12-1 Clemson or 12-1 UGA/Bama
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:29 pm to Tiger Prawn
quote:
But I hope you're right because I think an 8 team playoff is the ideal size
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!
Expansion is going to be terrible. It diminishes the regular season AND greatly expands the bubble teams that will bitch and moan. You'll also see conferences go away from the conference championship game model.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:32 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
How?
Blackmon led FSU isn't a bowl team.
I'm not speaking in hypotheticals here. I think I see the confusion.
I thought you meant that you thought Florida State could still make a bowl, and that would add another opponent to Alabama's schedule that is bowl eligible.
I'm simply saying if that's the case, Clemson gets another, too, because they also played FSU.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:32 pm to Tiger Prawn
quote:
1. 13-0 SEC champ
2. 12-1 Oklahoma
3. 13-0 Wisconsin
4. Either 12-1 Clemson or 12-1 UGA/Bama
Do you have a problem with the current rankings, particularly the top 8 or so? If you think the current rankings are solid, it is hard to see how Wisconsin could/should move up to #3 considering the remaining schedules of the teams above them.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:35 pm to BayouBengals03
Ohhhhhh.
No
I was just saying I think FSU makes a bowl if Francois plays all 12 games this year. In reality, Alabama is the only team who played that FSU team.
I realize it's a hypothetical. But I feel like any rational person would agree that they win 6 games with Francois playing all season.
No
I was just saying I think FSU makes a bowl if Francois plays all 12 games this year. In reality, Alabama is the only team who played that FSU team.
I realize it's a hypothetical. But I feel like any rational person would agree that they win 6 games with Francois playing all season.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:46 pm to slackster
quote:
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!
Expansion is going to be terrible. It diminishes the regular season AND greatly expands the bubble teams that will bitch and moan. You'll also see conferences go away from the conference championship game model.
Not really. 6 of the 8 spots could be guaranteed to conference champs (Power 5 champs and highest ranked G5 champ). There won't be many bubble teams since there'd only be 2 at-large spots and there won't be that many 1 or 2 loss teams to pick from that aren't conference champs.
I think it adds excitement to the regular season because it would mean more November games having potential playoff implications. More games for fans to be excited about among teams they don't normally have a rooting interest in. And we wouldn't be having any argument about possible scenarios that leave a 13-0 Big Ten champion out of the playoffs behind a trio of 1 loss teams.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:46 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
I was just saying I think FSU makes a bowl if Francois plays all 12 games this year. In reality, Alabama is the only team who played that FSU team.
I realize it's a hypothetical. But I feel like any rational person would agree that they win 6 games with Francois playing all season.
Agreed.
The committee knows that too, and will take it into consideration.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:52 pm to slackster
quote:
Do you have a problem with the current rankings, particularly the top 8 or so? If you think the current rankings are solid, it is hard to see how Wisconsin could/should move up to #3 considering the remaining schedules of the teams above them.
A few of the top 8 still have to play each other, which is going to knock the loser of those games out of the top 8.
#3 Notre Dame vs #7 Miami
#5 Oklahoma vs #6 TCU
Plus likely Clemson vs Miami and Georgia vs Alabama in conference title games
For Wisconsin to get to 13-0 they still have ALL of their toughest games ahead (Michigan, Iowa, and MSU/OSU in the title game). They win all of those and taking into account that there's a few top 7 losses guaranteed because of top teams playing each other, I don't see how Wisconsin isn't considered top 4 if they run the table.
Posted on 11/8/17 at 3:53 pm to BayouBengals03
Since the playoff started, have we had a week of games with THIS much potential for chaos?
shite is bout to go down..
shite is bout to go down..
Posted on 11/8/17 at 4:07 pm to wildtigercat93
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If they put Wisconsin in, it basically takes away any real advantage to scheduling good OOC games.
Here's where I disagree. Because in a world where two teams are tied for one of the final spots (undefeated or 1 loss), those wins would factor into who goes.
It all comes back to 3 main factors in my mind
1) How tough was your schedule?
2) Did you win all of those games?
3) Did you win your conference?
How you weight them is where the debate comes in. I tend to think that if you can answer 2 and 3 with yes and you're in a P5 conference, then that should trump an answer of "very" to #1. But of course I'm advocating for the position my team may be in.
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