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re: What do you want the CFB Playoff Criteria to be?
Posted on 4/21/13 at 5:10 pm to pkloa
Posted on 4/21/13 at 5:10 pm to pkloa
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1) Alabama. Obviously the best team each year, and they deserve a guaranteed spot. 2) ESPN darling. They know better than us anyway. 3) Worst team in the NFL. Because Bama is good enough to beat them. 4) At large. Preferably an SEC Team.
Don't give them any ideas
I'd have a 12 team playoff. Conference champions are in if, and only if, they're ranked in the top 25 based on a transparent mathematical formula. The rest of the field should be filled out with at larges.
The top four teams get a bye and a second round home game. The next four get a first round home game. This system makes every game matter--you're fighting for a higher seed or an at large spot even if you already won (or lost) your conference or division.
The ranking formula should punish losses and weak scheduling and reward quality wins. If you want to prevent "bad" scenarios like rematches, or teams getting ahead of someone who has the same record and beat them, you can add those rules as steps in the selection process for at large teams.
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Posted on 4/21/13 at 5:16 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
The selection should be as exclusionary as reasonably possible. Suggestions going to 8 or 16 are incredibly unwise. The goal of a championship playoff should be to crown the team that performs the best throughout the year as the champion, which means that teams without a clear case for that title should NOT be allowed in if it can be avoided.
I would probably start with a 6-team playoff to accommodate the possibility of all of the Big 5 conference teams going undefeated. In years where the BCS would "get it right" (i.e. years with a clear-cut 1-2), they'd be rewarded with a 1st-round bye and couldn't really complain about any on-field results. In years where the BCS couldn't "get it right" (more than 2 or, as in several cases, more than 4 qualified teams), you have enough flexibility to get the right teams in.
I would probably start with a 6-team playoff to accommodate the possibility of all of the Big 5 conference teams going undefeated. In years where the BCS would "get it right" (i.e. years with a clear-cut 1-2), they'd be rewarded with a 1st-round bye and couldn't really complain about any on-field results. In years where the BCS couldn't "get it right" (more than 2 or, as in several cases, more than 4 qualified teams), you have enough flexibility to get the right teams in.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 5:24 pm to oldcharlie8
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you have to let every conference champ get in to make it legit. EVERY OTHER NCAA SPORT DOES IT.
False.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 5:51 pm to oldcharlie8
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12 conference champs
4 at large bids
Are you counting the independent teams as being in a conference?
Posted on 4/21/13 at 5:56 pm to tigercross
2012 16 Team College Football Playoff Picture
#16 Nebraska @ #1 Alabama
#15 Oregon State @ #2 Stanford
#14 Clemson @ #3 Kansas State
#13 Oklahoma @ #4 Florida State
#12 South Carolina @ #5 Wisconsin
#11 Texas A&M @ #6 Notre Dame
#10 LSU @ #7 Georgia
#9 Florida @ #8 Oregon
#16 Nebraska @ #1 Alabama
#15 Oregon State @ #2 Stanford
#14 Clemson @ #3 Kansas State
#13 Oklahoma @ #4 Florida State
#12 South Carolina @ #5 Wisconsin
#11 Texas A&M @ #6 Notre Dame
#10 LSU @ #7 Georgia
#9 Florida @ #8 Oregon
This post was edited on 4/21/13 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 4/21/13 at 6:12 pm to dawgfan24348
ND at 6?
Posted on 4/21/13 at 6:13 pm to dawgfan24348
gawd I hate the large playoff format proposals... if I wanted to watch NFL football I would watch it. The thing that sets college football apart is their system of penalizing a single loss (unlike baseball or the NFL where you can have champs that won 50% of their regular season games).
I'd like a 4 or 6 team playoff. A risk with only rewarding the conference champs with bids is that you end up with progressively fewer and fewer teams playing other great teams from around the country. How to counter this? Give an advantage for playing a real OOC schedule. Especially if you want to be an at large bid you can't qualify if you don't play a BCS team out of conference
I'd like a 4 or 6 team playoff. A risk with only rewarding the conference champs with bids is that you end up with progressively fewer and fewer teams playing other great teams from around the country. How to counter this? Give an advantage for playing a real OOC schedule. Especially if you want to be an at large bid you can't qualify if you don't play a BCS team out of conference
Posted on 4/21/13 at 6:25 pm to molsusports
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gawd I hate the large playoff format proposals.
Because they work so well?
Posted on 4/21/13 at 6:36 pm to dawgfan24348
because they don't and they make regular season results less awesome to watch
Posted on 4/21/13 at 6:46 pm to dawgfan24348
I will preface this by saying, when it is all said and done, i still want bowls to be part of this.
So, at the most, the top 8 teams...
5 automatic bids - the big 5 conference champions
the last three bids, would be selected by a committee.
Some rules
If not a conference champion of the Big 5, and in top 5, you are in automatically.
The last 3 have to be in the Top 10 of the BCS, with no restrictions on number of teams from a conference.
As for ND and others...do not care.
So, at the most, the top 8 teams...
5 automatic bids - the big 5 conference champions
the last three bids, would be selected by a committee.
Some rules
If not a conference champion of the Big 5, and in top 5, you are in automatically.
The last 3 have to be in the Top 10 of the BCS, with no restrictions on number of teams from a conference.
As for ND and others...do not care.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 7:10 pm to dawgfan24348
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gawd I hate the large playoff format proposals.
Because they work so well?
No because its dumb to put the 16th team in. College football is fun because losses mean so much. 16 teams would regularly get teams with 3 losses in. No thanks.
This post was edited on 4/21/13 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 4/21/13 at 7:32 pm to molsusports
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because they don't and they make regular season results less awesome to watch
As opposed to 2004 when Auburn's regular season meant so much?
Or the "Game of the Century" counting for nothing?
Posted on 4/22/13 at 7:30 am to molsusports
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because they don't and they make regular season results less awesome to watch
well, in my 16 team format, EVERY game counts.
for example:
if you are playing tulane in week one, and happen to lose that one, then you HAD BETTER WIN YOUR CONFERENCE because there is NO WAY that you will get an at large bid. see...every game is important because, obviously, you will not be able to win your conference until the end of the season. note- in my scenario, all conference MUST have a ccg.
also, it's a system that gives you TWO ways to make it.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 7:47 am to Bestbank Tiger
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As opposed to 2004 when Auburn's regular season meant so much?
2003 and 2004 are good arguments for four team playoffs
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Or the "Game of the Century" counting for nothing?
2011 would have been better with a four or six game playoff... with only two participants in teh BCS NCG I think it was inexcusable to give Bama a second shot while not giving Ok State or another deserving team a first shot... but that's just a voter mistake that undermined the regular season (and I wanted a rubber game after 1/9)
To the poster above arguing you are out of it after you lose a single bad game early in the year? firstly i think you are wrong (because many times voters just blow up a single bad loss early in teh year) and secondly you could still potentially lose a lot more games in some conferences and still win your conference. It would only be a matter of time till you have 7-6 or 8-5 teams entered into the field.
Can't the people who like that awful system content themselves with most every other sport for pete's sake? There's no reason to watch college football except for the format IMO. The athletes and quality of the games are just better in the NFL... the only thing that separates CFB is the intensity of individual game results.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 7:56 am to molsusports
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Can't the people who like that awful system content themselves with most every other sport for pete's sake? There's no reason to watch college football except for the format IMO. The athletes and quality of the games are just better in the NFL... the only thing that separates CFB is the intensity of individual game results.
perfectly stated
Posted on 4/22/13 at 8:20 am to pkloa
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Troll rating, anyone?
You're doing it wrong.
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