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re: What did Stephen A. Smith say?
Posted on 7/25/14 at 3:51 pm to Haughton99
Posted on 7/25/14 at 3:51 pm to Haughton99
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Wow. Does everyone in this thread really believe that Women should have to go out of their way to make sure they don't provoke a man into beating them? You really think that when a woman gets beat by an abusing maniac that it's partially her fault?
If I refuse to buy a gun, and someone murders me, is it my fault that I got murdered? No, but I didn't mitigate for risk. I buy a gun because I'm mitigating for risk.
If a woman walks alone in a dark alley with a mini-skirt and stilettos, is it her fault that she gets assaulted? No, but she didn't mitigate for risk. By dressing sensibly and walking with a friend or a boyfriend, she is mitigating for risk.
Neither buying the gun nor dressing sensibly are offensive, outrageous actions that should never be considered. They are reasonable actions that recognize that the police can not be at all places at all times and it is up to individuals to take precautionary measures to protect themselves. The suggestion that we should not try to mitigate for risk is not only dumb, it is dangerous and irresponsible.
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 3:57 pm to CunningLinguist
I feel that bitches have gotten more uppity in recent times.
They are either trying to start shite with other girls, or they step up to guys thinking they won't get hit, or they start shite between guys, etc.
They start a whole bunch of unnecessary shite.
They are either trying to start shite with other girls, or they step up to guys thinking they won't get hit, or they start shite between guys, etc.
They start a whole bunch of unnecessary shite.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 4:26 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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Because some people like to talk about related things when discussing a certain subject? Jesus christ, having a conversation with you must be horrible. Sticking to one subject the whole time, how do you ever move on to something else?
Huh?
I'm saying on the one hand he says he doesn't condone hitting women then he goes on to say women are sometimes responsible for getting hit.
Its like when you apologize then make excuses for why you did what you did in the same breath
Posted on 7/25/14 at 4:58 pm to gadknot
After a series of Tweets where he doubled down on his bad opinion earlier it looks like the PR people at ESPN have told him to shut up and wrote a real apology for him.
Anyone gullible enough to think he wrote this?
Anyone gullible enough to think he wrote this?
quote:
My series of tweets a short time ago is not an adequate way to capture my thoughts so I am using a single tweet via Twitlonger to more appropriately and effectively clarify my remarks from earlier today about the Ray Rice situation. I completely recognize the sensitivity of the issues and the confusion and disgust that my comments caused. First off, as I said earlier and I want to reiterate strongly, it is never OK to put your hands on a women. Ever. I understand why that important point was lost in my other comments, which did not come out as I intended. I want to state very clearly. I do NOT believe a woman provokes the horrible domestic abuses that are sadly such a major problem in our society. I wasn't trying to say that or even imply it when I was discussing my own personal upbringing and the important role the women in my family have played in my life. I understand why my comments could be taken another way. I should have done a better job articulating my thoughts and I sincerely apologize.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 4:58 pm to BarbeTiger
Her dad is a member of mine. See him everyday. She comes in twice a year. Cool chick IMO.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 5:04 pm to Haughton99
Definitely left out the part about provoking in his clarification tweet.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 5:48 pm to Haughton99
quote:
After a series of Tweets where he doubled down on his bad opinion earlier it looks like the PR people at ESPN have told him to shut up and wrote a real apology for him.
Anyone gullible enough to think he wrote this?
quote:
My series of tweets a short time ago is not an adequate way to capture my thoughts so I am using a single tweet via Twitlonger to more appropriately and effectively clarify my remarks from earlier today about the Ray Rice situation. I completely recognize the sensitivity of the issues and the confusion and disgust that my comments caused. First off, as I said earlier and I want to reiterate strongly, it is never OK to put your hands on a women. Ever. I understand why that important point was lost in my other comments, which did not come out as I intended. I want to state very clearly. I do NOT believe a woman provokes the horrible domestic abuses that are sadly such a major problem in our society. I wasn't trying to say that or even imply it when I was discussing my own personal upbringing and the important role the women in my family have played in my life. I understand why my comments could be taken another way. I should have done a better job articulating my thoughts and I sincerely apologize.
Employers gonna employ.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 5:57 pm to stlslick
I don't think what he said was that bad, but he's been getting close to blaming this situation on the girl, when he talks about it.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 6:21 pm to gadknot
quote:
I'm saying on the one hand he says he doesn't condone hitting women then he goes on to say women are sometimes responsible for getting hit.
I don't think he ever said women are ever responsible for getting hit
He said women provoke men. Which is absolutely true. You just never know what men are capable of hitting women, so hey, just don't provoke anyone and you'll be in great shape. Is that unreasonable to ask?
Look, if women carry on like civilized human beings, they'll be ok for the most part. A minority act like civilized human beings but end up dating a shitebag that will hit them unprovoked, and that is sad.
But there are shitebag women out there too.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 6:33 pm to maine82
quote:
If I refuse to buy a gun, and someone murders me, is it my fault that I got murdered? No, but I didn't mitigate for risk. I buy a gun because I'm mitigating for risk.
If a woman walks alone in a dark alley with a mini-skirt and stilettos, is it her fault that she gets assaulted? No, but she didn't mitigate for risk. By dressing sensibly and walking with a friend or a boyfriend, she is mitigating for risk.
Neither buying the gun nor dressing sensibly are offensive, outrageous actions that should never be considered. They are reasonable actions that recognize that the police can not be at all places at all times and it is up to individuals to take precautionary measures to protect themselves. The suggestion that we should not try to mitigate for risk is not only dumb, it is dangerous and irresponsible.
This all makes a Helluva lot of sense.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 6:37 pm to CunningLinguist
Stephen A. is a bastard and I've no respect for him, but I'd guess that women who provoke other people get hit more often than people who don't provoke people get hit.
People who provoke other people need to be told this. Not a horrible point, but it's Stephen A., so frick him.
People who provoke other people need to be told this. Not a horrible point, but it's Stephen A., so frick him.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:01 pm to Dire Wolf
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:17 pm to CunningLinguist
Smith's comments were disgusting.
there is no provocation of a beating.
if he wants to talk about women (or men) leaving an abusive relationship like they should, that's real.
there is no provocation of a beating.
if he wants to talk about women (or men) leaving an abusive relationship like they should, that's real.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:26 pm to Haughton99
quote:
Wow. Does everyone in this thread really believe that Women should have to go out of their way to make sure they don't provoke a man into beating them? You really think that when a woman gets beat by an abusing maniac that it's partially her fault?
I've always lived by if I'm "man" enough to put my hands on a man then I deserve to be hit like a man. That's just me though. Obviously a woman who has been beaten by a man unprovoked is a totally different story, but that's not what we're discussing here.
Now I don't know whether it was provoked or not in either the Ray Rice situation or the Mixon situation so I can't say on those particular cases. But I agree with Stephen A Smith in principal. There are some women who think they can kick, hit, spit, etc on a man and because as a society there's this unwritten rule that a man should never put his hands on a woman that it gets a free pass. It shouldn't. And some trifling arse women shouldn't be surprised when they don't get a free pass for it.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:32 pm to Haughton99
quote:welcome to TD
What did Stephen A. Smith say?
Wow. Does everyone in this thread really believe that Women should have to go out of their way to make sure they don't provoke a man into beating them? You really think that when a woman gets beat by an abusing maniac that it's partially her fault?
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:33 pm to CunningLinguist
quote:
What did Stephen A. Smith say?
I don't know, but I bet he said it loudly
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:46 pm to Haughton99
quote:No. Take a minute and push your feelings aside and read the actual words and nomials of this post and consider what they actually mean.
Does everyone in this thread really believe that Women should have to go out of their way to make sure they don't provoke a man into beating them? You really think that when a woman gets beat by an abusing maniac that it's partially her fault?
x = likelihood of a woman being struck while not being a crazy, violent bitch
y = likelihood of a woman being struck while being a crazy, violent bitch
y > x
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:53 pm to CunningLinguist
Any pics of her in her mini skirt yet?
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:57 pm to ballscaster
I'm with you 100%. A woman should not talk back to a man because it might lead to her getting her arse kicked.
Right?
Right?
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:58 pm to boom roasted
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Do you want to give her a good beating?
i wou;d beat the brakes off her
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