re: What did Stephen A. Smith say?

As dumb as SAS's little rant was, I think beadle's response is even dumber.

SAS is talking about hitting women and Beadle leaps head first into the worn out "you're a rape apologist" meme. I don't think SAS's rant had shite to do with rape/sexual assault.

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Women should have to go out of their way to make sure they don't provoke a man into beating them?

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nope

that's not what people are saying at all

they're saying she should be mindful of a scenario where she at risk of being hit and not to exacerbate it into getting hit. even if they can muster a proportional response, she still loses in the end (by getting hit)

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I think it's more of him saying that women don't need to push the issue. Who hasn't dealt with a woman that keeps pushing the issue or pushing your buttons whenever she knows you're mad.

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Don't most sane men walk away at this point? I understand that there are crazy women but its hard for me find an excuse to beat a woman like Ray Rice did. And if I were on national tv I wouldn't think about even hinting towards the argument that we need to evaluate the woman's role in getting beat up. You're not going to win there

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These two sentences say the exact same thing.

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no they're not

one assumes a neutral/rational setting that a stimulus is interjected within

the other assumes a much more emotional/irrational setting where an emotional, possibly physical, response is more likely

he's discussing the latter, and advising for women not to inject their own emotional/physical responses in those scenarios

women or no women. that's good advice

He's not talking about women wearing pumps and mini skirts at night.


i once had a chick throw a glass vase at my head becuase I broke up with her. That's the type of shite that gets your arse whipped. I would have broke that broad if I felt like it, she knew it, I knew it, bu she still threw the vase at my head.


lol I remember one day I was at a high school football game and I was just wondering along, going in to the game, minding my own business, and this chick rushed me bucase she apparently thought I was someone from he school and she had a bunch of her girlfriends with her and saying " you ain't talking shite now what you going to do" and i as thinking woman i would beat the ever living shite out of you, lol if I had any idea who you were


SAS is talking about the understood notion that a "real man" won't hit a woman and just how far some women will take that shite. nothing to do with with her stupid arse response. I don't know what the hell she's talking about. that's the type of woman you tell to shut up while in bed you're ruining it lol


What if I threw a vase back at the girl that threw one at me? now her brother / father / whoever is now looking for me and now one of them is going to get in some trouble, as well as myself, over some bullshite that could have been prevented. Chick as white too lol. She was just pissed the f off.

I think we all can say with a rational, sober mind, sitting in a non threatening setting, that we would never ever hit a woman.
But then put us in a setting where both of y'all have been drinking and arguing, and a woman cracks you, I can see where instinct may have you hit back.

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here it tis:
“We know you have no business putting your hands on a woman. I don’t know how many times I got to reiterate that. But as a man who was raised by women, see I know what I’m going to do if somebody touches a female member of my family. I know what I’m going to do, I know what my boys are going to do. I know what, I’m going to have to remind myself that I work for the Worldwide Leader, I’m going to have to get law enforcement officials involved because of what I’m going to be tempted to do. But what I’ve tried to employ the female members of my family, some of who you all met and talked to and what have you, is that again, and this what, I’ve done this all my life, let’s make sure we don’t do anything to provoke wrong actions, because if I come, or somebody else come, whether it’s law enforcement officials, your brother or the fellas that you know, if we come after somebody has put their hands on you, it doesn’t negate the fact that they already put their hands on you. So let’s try to make sure that we can do our part in making sure that that doesn’t happen.”

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and?

I don't see anything wrong with that.

I've been in situations where females will verbally abuse men because they know they can get away with it since men should never lay their hands on another woman.

It's a double standard. Women can't have the mindset that hey, i'm going to talk as much shite as I want because I know he won't hit me. Not to mention how some toe the line of baiting

I think that's what SAS is trying to say.

stephen a smith is absolutely 100% correct with what he said

but frick him anyway cause he sucks

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but at the same time women should be held accountable for provoking whatever took place

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But why even bring that up unless you are trying to defend Ray Rice here? Otherwise that point is not relevant to the discussion.

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Does everyone in this thread really believe that Women should have to go out of their way to make sure they don't provoke a man into beating them?

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Why not, I take the necessary measures to stay out of fights too. Why shouldn't women?