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Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:36 pm to shel311
The teammate excuse is always his go-to when debating Kobe's shortcomings, but he will argue to the death about how much talent LeBron had surrounding him in Cleveland. Quite possibly the stupidest shite imaginable given some of Kobe's teammates.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:38 pm to theunknownknight
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He is more clutch
So 7 of 27 is clutch?
LOL
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:38 pm to theunknownknight
Every team knows the ball is going to be in Jordan's, Kobe's, and James hands in " clutch " moments.
No excuse.
No excuse.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:39 pm to c on z
Kobe has always risen to the challenge of shooting off balance shots with one sec left.
Lebron never wanted to take those shots. It's well documented.
Lebron never wanted to take those shots. It's well documented.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:39 pm to Louie T
quote:and the reason is so obvious too.
The teammate excuse is always his go-to when debating Kobe's shortcomings, but he will argue to the death about how much talent LeBron had surrounding him in Cleveland. Quite possibly the stupidest shite imaginable given some of Kobe's teammates.
I wouldn't be surprised if he argued that Lebron's Cleveland casts were better than some of those Laker title teams
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:40 pm to MrBlue105
quote:I i don't know your post history so I can only assume this is sarcasm lol.
Kobe has always risen to the challenge of shooting off balance shots with one sec left. Lebron never wanted to take those shots. It's well documented.
You are right though, I just hope for the right reasons. Lebron definitely didn't want to take low percentage shots
This post was edited on 5/24/13 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:40 pm to Louie T
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The teammate excuse is always his go-to when debating Kobe's shortcomings
That's funny in relation to the very topic of this thread and the following responses.
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The supporting cast has sucked the entire playoffs
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It's not easy when he has to play by himself. The Heat just play an awful team game for a team with so much talent.
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LeBron was a one man team tonight. Wade, charmers and Allen...the bad kind of big 3
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The bench needs to step up.
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And Battier would serve the Heat better by trying to get defensive rebounds instead of hitting the floor
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:41 pm to shel311
Kobe being infinitely less likely to create an open shot for a teammate is a large contributing factor in why teams just collapse on him.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:42 pm to theunknownknight
The 1st 2 quotes were flat out retarded.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:43 pm to shel311
Nope. Don't remember the last 2 years where everyone agreed that wade was the guy who gets the ball down the stretch? Didn't you just see him turnover the ball? He doesn't take thosedifficult shots.
This post was edited on 5/24/13 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:44 pm to tgr4ever
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Kobe is the most overrated 'clutch' player ever...
I'm not sure if that stat is really THAT relevant but I suppose it is worth bringing up.
Seems like it's just too small of a sample size to be meaningful.
I'd be more interested in what people do in the last 6 minutes of a game than the last 24 seconds.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:44 pm to MrBlue105
quote:Why would you take low percentage shots?
doesn't take thosedifficult shots.
I ls this real life?
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:46 pm to Powerman
quote:I hear you and agree.
I'm not sure if that stat is really THAT relevant but I suppose it is worth bringing up. Seems like it's just too small of a sample size to be meaningful. I'd be more interested in what people do in the last 6 minutes of a game than the last 24 seconds.
But Lebron and Mj have been better than Kobe in virtually every individual measurement out there, so I think its fair to assume Kobe would be the worst of the 3 in the final 6 minutes as well.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:46 pm to tgr4ever
Why are we limiting clutch to Fg% in the final 10 seconds?
You could hit a shot that wins the game for your team with 15 seconds left.
You could hit a shot that wins the game for your team with 15 seconds left.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:47 pm to shel311
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Why would you take low percentage shots?
Because you HAVE to
Jordan/Pippen/Kerr (best 3pt% shooter in History)
Jordan/Pippen/Grant/Armstrong (top 10 best 3pt% shooter in History)
Lebron/Wade/Bosh/Allen/Battier
Kobe/Shaq (usually on the bench in the final seconds of play due to hack-a-shaq)
Kobe/team 2 (team 2 was worthless in the clutch)
Who would be more likely to HAVE to take tough shots?
This post was edited on 5/24/13 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:49 pm to D011ahbi11
That pic clearly states 'final 24 seconds'
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:49 pm to shel311
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Why would you take low percentage shots? I ls this real life?
IT MAKES YOU LOOK CLUTCH!!!!
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:50 pm to shel311
Im not saying he should. Im stating that he should not be given the clutch label because his fg% is better w/ 10 secs left. He doesn't take difficult shots. Probably has more tos & bad passes than kobe in that time. I know he didn't even touch it in the last 10 secs many times with wade.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 11:51 pm to theunknownknight
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Lebron/Wade/Bosh/Allen/Battier
And as for the Cleveland days?
quote:if you can't create as well as the other 2, I agree.
Because you HAVE to
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