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Was West Virginia football "success" a product of the crappy Big East?
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:29 pm
Sure looks like that's the case. TCU and WVU look seriously outclassed in a big BCS conference.
This post was edited on 11/17/13 at 3:30 pm
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:32 pm to kilo
Yes. Duh.
Exactly what we told everyone on our way out
Exactly what we told everyone on our way out
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:35 pm to kilo
But...... but .......but........they are upgrades
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:35 pm to kilo
Big east and pat white made wv god
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:36 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Upgrade
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:38 pm to kilo
Dana Holgerwhatever is just a dolt
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:39 pm to kilo
A good friend of mine who's an OU fan talked until he was blue in the face back in '12 how much stronger the big12 was with WVU and TCU.
"Wouldn't even miss A&M and Mizzou," he said.
"Wouldn't even miss A&M and Mizzou," he said.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:42 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Can you imagine all the holding penalties we would have every time JFF scrambled if we were still in the big dumpster fire
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:45 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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"Wouldn't even miss A&M and Mizzou,"
I dont think any of them really believed that nonsense. It was just the knee jerk typical reaction to losing 3rd and 4th teams to another conference.
Neither of them will recruit well enough to compete. The move as hammered WVU recruiting especially hard. Trying to convince Florida and South East coast kids to play in a league consisting of the schools in the Big 12 isnt going to work very well for them long term.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:46 pm to Agforlife
I would expect an adjustment period. If you play in a better conference, that will help you get better athletes.
TCU was a mid-major a few years ago so a blue chip recruit wasn't going to be as willing to play there. An undefeated season means no chance to play for the national championship.
Now they're in a conference where running the table gives you a meaningful reward, so they're pulling in better players. But their veterans are competing against teams that had that advantage the whole time.
TCU was a mid-major a few years ago so a blue chip recruit wasn't going to be as willing to play there. An undefeated season means no chance to play for the national championship.
Now they're in a conference where running the table gives you a meaningful reward, so they're pulling in better players. But their veterans are competing against teams that had that advantage the whole time.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:47 pm to kilo
Does Dana still have his mullett? If not, then I blame their failure on his cutting the mullett off.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:47 pm to kilo
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I dont think any of them really believed that nonsense. It was just the knee jerk typical reaction to losing 3rd and 4th teams to another conference.
I dunno--you know how fast and thick the shite was flying when we were in the throes of realignment. More than a few folks I know completely bought the drivel that was becoming the BDF party lines. Hindsight is 20/20, though.
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The move as hammered WVU recruiting especially hard. Trying to convince Florida and South East coast kids to play in a league consisting of the schools in the Big 12 isnt going to work very well for them long term.
I don't know which was the more perplexing move--them actually going to the big12 or the big12 offering an invitation in the first place.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:48 pm to kilo
the mizzou hard on for wvu is strong
you do realize wvu played for the national title twice before the big east got raided
We have more all time wins than Mizzou
More BCS wins
This year was a perfect storm of for a bad year. No depth left by the previous coach and a new conference which is a clear step up in competition. Its gowning pains
you do realize wvu played for the national title twice before the big east got raided
We have more all time wins than Mizzou
More BCS wins
This year was a perfect storm of for a bad year. No depth left by the previous coach and a new conference which is a clear step up in competition. Its gowning pains
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:48 pm to kilo
You're in the SEC now, you have more pressing concerns such as Atlanta.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:49 pm to kilo
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The move as hammered WVU recruiting especially hard. Trying to convince Florida and South East coast kids to play in a league consisting of the schools in the Big 12 isnt going to work very well for them long term.
that is such bullshite
backed up by no facts at all
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:51 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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I don't know which was the more perplexing move--them actually going to the big12 or the big12 offering an invitation in the first place.
It was a strange marriage all the way around.
Probably a marriage of convenience for both parties. ACC and SEC would never offer them and staying in the Big East wasnt an option.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:51 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I agree with most of that but I do think it will be harder fot WVU to recruit because of the move but I honestly believe it will only be temporary
Eta I harbor no ill will or disrespect towards WVU I wish them success in the big12
Eta I harbor no ill will or disrespect towards WVU I wish them success in the big12
This post was edited on 11/17/13 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:52 pm to kilo
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Yes. Duh
Could not be said much better than this.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:53 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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the mizzou hard on for wvu is strong
No hard on at all. In fact, it was mostly WVU fans yapping at Mizzou and its fans during realignment.
Just taking a look back at how things worked out. Sorry if the truth is uncomfortable for you.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:54 pm to Agforlife
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I do think it will be harder fot WVU to recruit because of the move but I honestly believe it will only be temporary
not even. Dana is setting a new standard in terms of quality of players and having a class with this many guys this early is un heard of by wvu standards
4 of our recruits this year are from FL, including 2 espn 300 guys
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