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re: VIDEO: Tony Stewart hits opposing driver; driver has died according to reports
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:00 pm to YStar
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:00 pm to YStar
quote:
Can put one and one together and won't blindly defend somebody just because they're "Tony Stewart".
Yet you're accusing him because he's Tony Stewart.
I don't follow NASCAR. I watch highlights and know he has a non-flattering reputation. I don't give a shite about Stewart. But I see the ones ready to put him under the jail clearly didn't like him before this happened.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 3:05 pm
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:01 pm to YStar
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From the 8 second mark to the 15 second.
His car is only in the damn frame from the 11th to the 13th second mark of that video. C'mon dude.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:01 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I can't tell one way or another on this "acceleration" argument.
But IMHO it looked like he swerved towards him. You can definitely see that he's higher on the track after the contact.
But IMHO it looked like he swerved towards him. You can definitely see that he's higher on the track after the contact.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:01 pm to ell_13
quote:
His car moves up the path.
With a man stuck on his right rear tire. Physics.
Yeah, it's really hard not to insult anyone who still thinks he "accelerated up the track" based on the video. I find it hard to believe anyone who can put together a complete sentence can't understand what happened.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:01 pm to YStar
quote:
blindly defend somebody just because they're "Tony Stewart"
You keep on making this claim, yet several folks in this thread (myself included) do not like Stewart in the least, just can't condemn him based upon the evidence publicly available.
Yet somehow when someone disagrees with you, they're just blindly defending TS.
This is trollish from you.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:02 pm to YStar
quote:
and accelerates
I see everyone saying this, but has it been confirmed? I think people are jumping to some conclusions that may not be the case.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:03 pm to volfan30
The dumbass shouldn't be running around a poorly lit track at night time. The fault lies with Ward. Sucks he died but this isn't Stewart's fault.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:03 pm to OneMoreTime
People are acting like 2 other cars weren't inches from killing him seconds before. This guy was asking for something like this to happen. He was working his way down the track to get closer to Tony's car. This is just what I can get from the video.
Tony's intentions and actions prior to what we see in the video are a totally different matter and if we ever get that video, I'll make my judgement then. But nothing implicates him that we've seen.
Tony's intentions and actions prior to what we see in the video are a totally different matter and if we ever get that video, I'll make my judgement then. But nothing implicates him that we've seen.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:03 pm to Socrates Johnson
quote:No, it hasn't.
I see everyone saying this, but has it been confirmed?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:04 pm to OneMoreTime
quote:
His car is only in the damn frame from the 11th to the 13th second mark of that video. C'mon dude.
Uh, I wanted you to see his walk out. I wanted you to see the blue car slow down and avoid Ward.
Then I wanted you to see the difference in actions as Tony Stewart comes into view.
- He is obviously moving his car toward Ward.
- Ward is obviously trying to dodge while putting his hands out.
- He obviously accelerated.
Those three things are undeniable. He goes faster and we can hear his engine rev higher. We can see that he has not yet made contact with Ward Jr yet his car is moving upward toward Ward Jr.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:04 pm to ell_13
quote:Yeah, he was lucky to not get hit by the 45.
People are acting like 2 other cars weren't inches from killing him seconds before. This guy was asking for something like this to happen. He was working his way down the track to get closer to Tony's car. This is just what I can get from the video.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:05 pm to CrimsonTideMD
quote:
But IMHO it looked like he swerved towards him. You can definitely see that he's higher on the track after the contact.
Dragging a body on the right side of the car will tend to make that happen.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:05 pm to The_Joker
bottom line... if you are crazy enough to get out of your car wearing black, at night, on a freaking race track... be prepared for something bad to happen. Looks to me like the guy who was hig is the one who had the hot head and because of that resulted in his death. Terrible accident, but sometimes bad things happen
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
With a man stuck on his right rear tire. Physics.
Honest question: was the guy stuck on the tire. I'm watching on YouTube phone app. Small picture, dark track, hard to make out exactly what's happening
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:06 pm to YStar
quote:
- He is obviously moving his car toward Ward.
- Ward is obviously trying to dodge while putting his hands out.
- He obviously accelerated.
Where's this video? You and maybe two others have apparently seen this evidence.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:06 pm to YStar
quote:Troll.
I wanted you to see the blue car slow down and avoid Ward.
quote:Troll.
- He is obviously moving his car toward Ward
quote:Troll.
- He obviously accelerated.
quote:Troll.
Those three things are undeniable.
quote:An engine. Can't say it's his.
He goes faster and we can hear his engine rev higher
quote:Troll.
We can see that he has not yet made contact with Ward Jr yet his car is moving upward toward Ward Jr.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:06 pm to YStar
quote:
From the 8 second mark to the 15 second. It is VERY clear before Tony hits him his car diverts upward. It is very clear Ward Jr sees it divert upward and attempts to get out of the way putting his hand down.
Not sure if you know what "very clear" means.
People get far too emotional about this and objectivity be damned.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Dragging a body on the right side of the car will tend to make that happen.
He was already headed in that direction before he hit him.
The 45 car that came before him saw Ward Jr and stayed low, hence why he didn't hit him.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Video is here
Stop it at the 10 second mark. This is after the 45 goes by.
You will see Ward Jr in view. If pause/play it to see frame by frame. You see Tony enter the video and his car is moving higher. You see Ward Jr, see he is too close and attempt to jump out of the way.
Stop it at the 10 second mark. This is after the 45 goes by.
You will see Ward Jr in view. If pause/play it to see frame by frame. You see Tony enter the video and his car is moving higher. You see Ward Jr, see he is too close and attempt to jump out of the way.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:09 pm to YStar
quote:I've watched the video multiple times. Ward was lucky he wasn't hit by the 45 before getting hit by Stewart.
Uh, I wanted you to see his walk out. I wanted you to see the blue car slow down and avoid Ward.
Then I wanted you to see the difference in actions as Tony Stewart comes into view.
quote:Stop trolling, please.
- He is obviously moving his car toward Ward.
- Ward is obviously trying to dodge while putting his hands out.
- He obviously accelerated.
Those three things are undeniable. He goes faster and we can hear his engine rev higher. We can see that he has not yet made contact with Ward Jr yet his car is moving upward toward Ward Jr.
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