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re: Vick: Eagles forgive Riley Cooper
Posted on 8/1/13 at 6:49 am to tduecen
Posted on 8/1/13 at 6:49 am to tduecen
quote:First things first, i'm really big on the whole, "black people use their version of the word wayyyyyyyy too much".
But......
White person says it = racist
Black person says it = not racist
But...intent HAS to count for something. When black people use it, the intent is just ever so slightly than the usual instances when white people use it. Just slightly lol.
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Posted on 8/1/13 at 7:08 am to shel311
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intent HAS to count
It does. Why else would he use that slur unless he had some racial animus.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 7:08 am to shel311
Well yeah and like I said, I think he meant it more so in a disrespectful way and had it been a white guy he would have said redneck or white trash. Obviously we are most sensitive to that word in society because of the past but he seemed to use it out of anger not because he is a racist.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 7:18 am to tiger2012
quote:I hear ya. I moreso meant intent in every situatoin, not just this one, but yea I agree with you.
It does. Why else would he use that slur unless he had some racial animus
There is another side of this I thought of, just for conversatoinal sake...isn't it entirely possible that given the football environment he's been around probably a great part of his life, and given that the majority of these teams are usually black players, isn't it possible that he became a bit desensitized to the word if he's heard young, black guys use it towards each other in the common way that is done?
A couple of disclaimers here before I get beat down lol. I'm not saying every black football player loves to toss the word around, nor does this excuse what Cooper said, I'm just saying it's possible that he's heard this word thrown around, and being in that environment, he may be more used to the word or desensitized towards it than some other white people would.
This post was edited on 8/1/13 at 7:23 am
Posted on 8/1/13 at 7:28 am to tiger2012
quote:
It does. Why else would he use that slur unless he had some racial animus.
Because he's in a locked room where that word is thrown around like the word "dude" or "guy."
Posted on 8/1/13 at 7:31 am to Sophandros
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The guy apologized though, so it's time to move on.
Will be very interesting to see how this plays out compared to how the media relentlessly attacked and piled on Paula Dean.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 7:36 am to Rickety Cricket
I get it. He's just a product of his environment.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 7:50 am to shel311
Intent does count. However, blacks don't pronounce words ending in er properly anyways so it always comes out ending with an -a anyways. Blacks use it in derogatory means during confrontations.
Also:
White person makes racist remark it's all over the web, news, social media, etc.
Black person makes racist remark and it's meh...
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The double standard is disgustingly hilarious. Oh well. What Riley Cooper did was fricking stupid. The word in itself should not be used by anyone. It's fricking dumb.
Also:
White person makes racist remark it's all over the web, news, social media, etc.
Black person makes racist remark and it's meh...
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The double standard is disgustingly hilarious. Oh well. What Riley Cooper did was fricking stupid. The word in itself should not be used by anyone. It's fricking dumb.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:19 am to USAF Hart
All these people that are crucifing him he should ask the the question, have you people not said something that isn't nice in the heat of the moment?
He regrets what he said and its not the first time he has or will. So move on and try to become a better person screw all this political correctness bullshite
Thats how I would handle it if I were him.
He regrets what he said and its not the first time he has or will. So move on and try to become a better person screw all this political correctness bullshite
Thats how I would handle it if I were him.
This post was edited on 8/1/13 at 9:20 am
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:24 am to tankyank13
Saying the N-word in and of itself is not inherently racist. Actually calling a black guy "boy" is more true to the definition of racism. The n-word is offensive but doesnt necessarily convey the sense of superiority or inferiority of an entire race that is required for an act to be racist. It is simply the derogatory word for black person. In this instance we have an angry guy saying the most offensive thing he could think of. Thats not racist. Its like calling a girl a bitch because you know it will piss her off.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:29 am to shel311
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its awfully naive to think that's not what every defenders does to every player.
Not true.
Watch when theres a running play off tackle to the right this season, often times the WR/DB on the left side of the field are just barely pushing eachother and going through the motions, conserving energy for the next play. I can see a DB being a lot more physical in those types of off the ball situations.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:32 am to shel311
quote:
isn't it possible that he became a bit desensitized to the word if he's heard young, black guys use it towards each other in the common way that is done?
I hear ya, but damn. The way he said it, I'm sure none of his black teammates have ever said the n-word like that
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:38 am to onmymedicalgrind
N**ga - acceptable
N**ger - unacceptable
It's just the rules.
N**ger - unacceptable
It's just the rules.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:41 am to Sevendust912
quote:A fine is an odd way to forgive someone
Eagles forgive Riley Cooper
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:43 am to USAF Hart
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The double standard is disgustingly hilarious. Oh well. What Riley Cooper did was fricking stupid
it is what it is b/c of our countries past
Cooper didn't lose any sleep over using the word until this video surfaced
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:48 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Cooper didn't lose any sleep over using the word until this video surfaced
As he shouldnt. And no black person has lost any sleep since hearing it.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:50 am to Hester Carries
I hope Riley apologized for that flannel cutoff shirt he was wearing.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:01 am to Hester Carries
Former Eagles DE Hugh Douglas sure sounded like he had his panties in a twist this morning when he phoned in to ESPN to give his two cents.
I'm just overall sick of the black vs white mentality that the media portrays there to be. It's a tired damn subject. It's like the media WANTS segregation or something.
I'm just overall sick of the black vs white mentality that the media portrays there to be. It's a tired damn subject. It's like the media WANTS segregation or something.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:04 am to Hester Carries
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And no black person has lost any sleep since hearing it.
For some reason I just don't really believe you have any keen insight into the mind of black people
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:04 am to Sevendust912
I'd like to know how many times the n word is said in a football game. I bet at least 500 times.
That and frick or bitch has to be up there.
That and frick or bitch has to be up there.
This post was edited on 8/1/13 at 11:06 am
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