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re: USA 2-0 Mexico GAME

Posted on 2/11/09 at 9:58 pm to
Posted by Tweezy
west of east
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Posted on 2/11/09 at 9:58 pm to
the mexicans always travel well
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/11/09 at 10:02 pm to
I knew they'd have a lot, but I'd say it was probably about 65-35 USA, I was thinking it'd be more like 75-25.
Posted by Tweezy
west of east
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/11/09 at 10:04 pm to
i love the team. just take out ching and dempsey. i dont like clint for some reason
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/11/09 at 10:06 pm to
I agree. Liked that lineup a lot. I agree, too, to take out Ching, put in Altidore. I like Dempsey, though.
Posted by Tweezy
west of east
Member since Apr 2008
12158 posts
Posted on 2/11/09 at 10:07 pm to
altidore is so composed and calm out there.
Posted by keeper007
Austin
Member since Feb 2008
1511 posts
Posted on 2/11/09 at 10:58 pm to
Ching did a great job in his role, target forward. His job is not to make tons of runs into space, that is for Donovan to do as the off forward. Ching plays a role and does it well. He keeps posession and allows our attacking mids to get forward.

Nobody made a run for Altidore in the 85 minute because IT WAS THE 85 MINUTE and we were up 1 - 0. You train your player on the ball to kill some time while your defense can rest and organize.

Hejduk was great, Pearce just okay. Dos Santos got around him quite a bit. I thought our CM's did a great job of combination in the middle third of the field and Donovan and Bradley did an excellent job of looking to play penetrating passes, particularly Bradley. I though Dempsey was awful, but he rarely got good service.

Great result by the US!
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:01 pm to
Ching didn't hold the ball up that well. I understand his role, but he can barely trap a ball. I appreciate his effort and he occasionally does a good job of holding the ball, but he's just not that great of a target man.
Posted by keeper007
Austin
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:06 pm to
I think he gets into channels better than altidore. I agree altidore is a dangerous combination of size and speed, but gives us a bit less posession in the game. If Altidore was playing first team football in a the 1st divison somewhere, then I can see him starting.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:12 pm to
Well, that all comes with experience. The thing is, Jozy can't be subbed in the 80th minute and expected to make a contribution. He's the type of player that needs to find the groove of the game.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:26 pm to
quote:

If Altidore was playing first team football in a the 1st divison somewhere, then I can see him starting

whoa now

he would be starting in the MLS, like ching, if he were in the MLS

you can't criticize him for being good enough to be bought by a solid 1st division team of La Liga. that's ridiculous
Posted by RebelNutt
God's Country
Member since Dec 2007
6478 posts
Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:33 pm to
Not a big soccer fan but I watched that entire game, it was awesome
Posted by keeper007
Austin
Member since Feb 2008
1511 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 7:03 am to
quote:

you can't criticize him for being good enough to be bought by a solid 1st division team of La Liga. that's ridiculous


He was bought by them, but loaned out to a second division squad. My problem is not his talent, but his game fitness. Anybody playing on the full national team needs to be playing more than sporadically in the second division in spain.
Posted by Mr. Shankly
Redding and Marshall Rd
Member since Aug 2004
5552 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 7:03 am to
Wonderful! I thought the game was tonight
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25249 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 7:09 am to
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
10214 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:17 am to
--the mexicans always travel well--

Uh, bro, I hate to tell you this, but the Mexicans have travelled VERY well. Those 40,000 dudes in sombreros didn't fly in from Cancun for this game. They're here already, most of them illegally, in your town.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481250 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Anybody playing on the full national team needs to be playing more than sporadically in the second division in spain.

well great then the MLS all-star team should be our starters and we'll blow. they're the only players guaranteed that kind of playing time b/c well, the MLS isn't a top division

Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:44 am to
Ching spent most of the game, as usual, turning the ball over to the Mexicans. If his role on the team is to make a long touch that gives possession to the defense, then he is great at that role. If that isn't his role, he should be benched.

I'd like to point out that on the corner kick which scored a goal, three players touched the ball. Ching was not only not one of them, he was nowhere near the play. What? Is our only striker on the field as a decoy? Ching is a striker who can't score. That makes him a liability. If we are rolling out a strategy which calls for our striker not to score, well, that's a problem with the system, too.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481250 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:46 am to
quote:

If we are rolling out a strategy which calls for our striker not to score, well, that's a problem with the system, too.

exactly

but we do have 2 defensive mids!

BRING BACK THE 3-6-1
This post was edited on 2/12/09 at 9:47 am
Posted by keeper007
Austin
Member since Feb 2008
1511 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:51 am to
I'm not saying the MLS starters should be our line up. No way, we would be terrible. I just want to see him keep developing and earning playing time overseas to be far better than Ching in the future. There is a reason Ching plays and i'm sure Bradley sees it in training. I'm not saying Ching is going to be our targer player come 2010, but he isn't as bad as people think.
Posted by keeper007
Austin
Member since Feb 2008
1511 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:51 am to
I love what Bradley has done over time. We looked quick in transition and fast in combination in the middle of the field. Much better than what we showed in the England/Spain/Argentina run last year.
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