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re: USA 1 vs. Costa Rica 3 9pm ESPN2 "We Shall Overcome"

Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:09 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:09 pm to
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you cant say England's or Argentina's best athletes play international soccer.

oh they do

but their best athletes aren't close to our best athletes, so the comparison is moot
Posted by CrazyTigerFan
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:10 pm to
If we can't figure out how to string some attacking possession together and get some actual shots on goal, there will be no repeat of El Salvador tonight. It really looks like the players just aren't prepared to run a 4-3-3, turf or no turf.
Posted by duqueob
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:10 pm to
damn that stadium is loud for so little amount of people
Posted by Ron Mexico
AMERICA
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Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:10 pm to
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so the best athletes in the US are playing tonight?


I know you are not this ignorant. Come now, you cant say England's or Argentina's best athletes play international soccer.





thank you


england doesnt have other team sports like we do



the soccer ignorance from people who dont know anything about it makes me want to vomit
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:10 pm to
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these guys arent SUPERIOR athletes

the dutch have a couple, mostly from places like suriname

thats one thing the US needs to do. imagine if ibromhimivic's family had moved to the US instead of Sweden
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:10 pm to
They don't touch Serie A, Premier League, or La Liga..but the Brazilian league is not far behind Bundesliga.
So yeah, I'd put it at 5. After that you get France, Argentina, Chile, and Mexico.
This post was edited on 6/3/09 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Xenophon
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Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:11 pm to
thats not what im talking about.. obviously football and basketball players are athletic freaks that are mostly unmatched..

what i mean is that there are those people who are just good at everything they do.. they are just athletically and skill wise superior to everyone else around them.. in the US, those people are not pushed into soccer, as in other countries..

i believe we have the population and diversity to find those special players.. but it boils down to changing the youth perception.. which i think is happening.. soccer today is light years ahead of where it was when i was a kid..
Posted by ATLienTiger
NOLA
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:11 pm to
naw brah, England has people way more athletic than their soccer players. England's brand of football is more physical nothing very explosive.

Argentina has got a pretty good basketball movement as well.
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:11 pm to
hahahaha, yeah




but you get my point, although i dont think i was actually conversing with you on it


the whole best athlete thing is fricking garbage
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:11 pm to
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in the US, those people are not pushed into soccer, as in other countries..

if we had youth development worth a shite and these guys played soccer, we'd be a superior version of brazil
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:12 pm to
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we'd be a superior version of France

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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477176 posts
Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:12 pm to
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England has people way more athletic than their soccer players.

what sports do they play?
Posted by ATLienTiger
NOLA
Member since Oct 2006
27279 posts
Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:13 pm to
Mastroeni and Beasley are playing wayyyyyyy worse than they are capable, in Wynn's case he is just that bad.
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:13 pm to
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we used to play grind it out and try to get lucky on offense. bradley has changed our game to...shite


Man, you should have seen how bad our teams were 20 years ago. The growth of US soccer has been incredible. These guys are much more skilled and tactically better.

But it is good to see fans who aren't satisfied yet.

I am really disappointed with Pablo tonight. And it's like Beasley has forgotten what sport this is.

Jozy is great.

Torres is improving, although he still slows it down too much sometimes. Get it to your forwards feet quicker.

I'm not impressed with Wynn, but Onyewu's first couple of games he was horrible, so hopefully.

Anyone know why Edu isn't available tonight? Injury?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:13 pm to
America wouldn't have to claim players from a different continent to be good
Posted by Ron Mexico
AMERICA
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52037 posts
Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

in the US, those people are not pushed into soccer, as in other countries..



who cares. its not the same style of athlete

we just have to find the guys.


and in my opinion, we have a bunch of them, they just arent on the field right now
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
43154 posts
Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:13 pm to
I'm pretty disappointed in Mastroeni's play tonight too.
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:14 pm to
All of our players are American born.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:14 pm to
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All of our players are American born.

adu?
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:14 pm to
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America wouldn't have to claim players from a different continent to be good
Well in terms of the prototype of players France uses, we would compare to them. We are so far away from Brazil's style it isn't even funny.
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