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re: UNLV (3-0) starting QB leaves program immediately over NIL
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:57 am to Prominentwon
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:57 am to Prominentwon
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No one is gonna touch this kid after he pulled this one.
Some P5 will take him. Schools are desperate
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:59 am to GetCocky11
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Some P5 will take him. Schools are desperate
When it comes out that the NIL agreement was verbal and the deal makers decided not to pay then he can go wherever he wants and UNLV is screwed.
I think this is the most likely scenario with the info we have right now. The school's statement was very legalese in which they never said they paid him his agreed upon NIL.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:15 am to DalenSA
quote:That’s why he packed his bags and left.
You’ll never win a he-said she-said battle over a verbal promise
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:17 am to bkPoseidon
so he was promised atleast 6 figures but didn’t get this deal in writing?
his NIL agent is shite

his NIL agent is shite
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 10:19 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:20 am to msutiger
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They can’t until the end of the semester
Why not? Its an athletic scholarship. He's not injured. He's voluntarily quitting, therefore not holding up his end of the scholarship deal.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:24 am to Tiger Prawn
Looks like his NIL rep is doing damage control.
Dude sucks anyways if they had the QB from last year they'd be way better
You don't get a bunch of stuff saying that all payment has been made
Dude sucks anyways if they had the QB from last year they'd be way better
You don't get a bunch of stuff saying that all payment has been made
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 10:26 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:32 am to Basura Blanco
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Which sounds like what is happening here. The kid says he didn't get the funds he was promised. The promiser seems to have told the kid that a sub 50% completion rate wasn't worth shite
I don’t think we have all the info here. But if he had an NIL deal (contract) and he is t getting what is contractually obligated, I dont blame him for getting pissed off.
He probably could handle it better, but athletes are now employees and if they aren’t getting what’s owed what else are they going to do.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:32 am to Salamander_Wilson
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Yes. If you sign a contract under your own free will, you honor it.
If you do not, you are most decidedly lacking in character.
How many coaches leave before fulfilling the full term of their contract? How many try to leverage new contracts after on 2-3 years of a long contract? That's pretty standard practice among coaches.
The difference here is the kid quitting on his team midseason. I don't ever recall a situation where a coach stop coaching midseason because he was unhappy with his deal.
It will be very interesting to find out the REAL story. If he was promised certain things to sign with UNLV and they have failed to live up to their end of the bargain, then I understand him walking. However, if he's bailing because UNLV is choosing to not "renegotiate" during the season that is a whole other can of worms that should make this kid persona non grata.
Finally, if the "reports" are true that another school offered more money and he quickly (or eventually) signs with that school, then this is going to set a VERY bad precedent an invite much more of this. Remember, likely high draft picks "opting out" of bowl game was initially very rare. Now, great and marginal players alike aren't playing in bowl games. It's essentially rendered them even more meaningless.
If kids see they can leverage three freaking games into a bigger payday by taking this approach...they will
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:33 am to Alt26
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How many coaches leave before fulfilling the full term of their contract? How many try to leverage new contracts after on 2-3 years of a long contract? That's pretty standard practice among coaches.
Those who leave often owe millions of dollars
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:34 am to UltimateHog
So who tampered?
If it wasn't for gambling, this would kill interest at most schools not perennial top15
If it wasn't for gambling, this would kill interest at most schools not perennial top15
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:37 am to Fun Bunch
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Quinn and Arch go down. Texas offers Nussmeier 3 million to finish the season.
A scenario like that is coming with a lawsuit to instantly transfer and be able to play.
It has to change. Unfettered no limitations free agency is unsustainable.
There has to be a middle ground. Take a single cent of NIL? You’re locked into that school for 2 seasons or you owe penalties. And the school is locked into you for that time.
The NIL deals can't be tied to playing for a specific school *wink wink*. We all know that there's loopholes schools are using to work around that rule though.
But with the NCAA lawsuit settlement and schools having a pool of $20M to make direct payments to players starting next year, you're going to see actual contracts between schools and players for set number of years. So the player could still quit the team, but then the school could block him from playing elsewhere if they refused to grant him a release from his contract.
Of course it will be a shite show and an NCAA players union and collective bargaining seems inevitable in the near future. Though it will be interesting to see how a players union avoids massive infighting between the different interests involved when football players want all of the pie to themselves or when women's basketball players think they deserve as much as the men's team. Or when non-revenue sports want their slice too.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:39 am to Enzos Tiny Pito
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Those who leave often owe millions of dollars
True.
But I was responding to the poster who said
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Yes. If you sign a contract under your own free will, you honor it.
..and pointing out that coaches rarely honor the contract they sign. If they have any hint of success they are immediately trying to leverage that success into a new contract. Either at their current school or another.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:39 am to Tiger Prawn
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it seems like this all is a PR pissing contest

idk who to actually believe
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:39 am to Tiger Prawn
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But with the NCAA lawsuit settlement and schools having a pool of $20M to make direct payments to players starting next year,
That settlement is nowhere close to being finalized. I seriously doubt Revenue sharing will start next year.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:43 am to HottyToddy7
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He was allegedly offered 100K and has only received 3K relocation assistance.
He was allegedly offered 100K and has only received 3K relocation assistance.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 10:44 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:44 am to Alt26
quote:The coach's contract includes a buyout that a new school who was hiring him would have to pay to the school he was leaving. If Brian Kelly left LSU to take another coaching job elsewhere, he owes LSU a $2 million buyout.
How many coaches leave before fulfilling the full term of their contract?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:50 am to UltimateHog
I think this is awesome and great for college football. Can't wait to see how all this unfolds.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:52 am to Domeskeller
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We’ve all been waiting for the market to reset itself as far back as Nick Saban crossing the $1 million mark when he was hired at LSU after the 1999 season. But the market never resets itself in big-time college and pro sports.
Kirby Smart now at $13m a year
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 10:53 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:54 am to UltimateHog
Top coaches getting over 10m a year, creation of mega conferences, TV deals, gambling apps. frick it. Others are getting paid, players should go to the highest bidder.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 11:05 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:13 am to Bhodges
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He was allegedly offered 100K and has only received 3K relocation assistance.
Considering this sounds kind of like what happened at Florida I think this is the likely scenario. We are going to get a lot more stories of boosters promising NIL money they don't actually have to give out.
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