re: UFC 319 Thread - Dricus vs Khamzat

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And UFC darling Shara, Y

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Ok. One decent fight out of 4.

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Yep. But i guess this is the part where we say "so and so sucks beause they lost their last fight" Like nobody on this board talked about how Holland looked like a contender when he went back to WW and won 2 in a row and how impressive Cannoniers come back win over robocop was. Nah now they're trash

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I mean. Ok? Cannonier 6-4 in his last 10 before last night and 1-2 before last night, now 1-3.

Holland was 4-5-1 in his last 10 before mvp fight. And he’s went 3-4 since then. And he’s basically admitted himself that he’s just a journeyman lol

Are we really building a resume off of someone wining decision fights against those two and losing to another underwhelming decision artist?

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No i did not, as i stated in the post

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Several posts in the first round generally saying: OMG how do you even prepare for this? Dude is on another level. And the announcers basically all were saying the same thing.

And then if Cannonier had more time he probably would have ground and pound to a victory lol

MVP is severely overrated.

My sarcasm went right over your head. "Its a fight right" is the first thing anyone says when they are defending someone who controls someone and takes no risks.

Ive been watching mma since the tito/shamrock days; i respect the hell out of this east European style; its obviously effective in this sport. But it sucks for the spectators. These guys basically just get their hands clasped and keep their head on your back or your chest and never take a risk, just hold you there and pitter patter, wait for opponent to get frustrated and maybe get a submission arm triangle or rnc; but if not, just sit there indefinitely with their head on their chest or back. If only they allowed knees to grounded opponents, this might be different in some of the popular big brother positions against the cage.

Now last night is not exactly the best fight to get on soapbox box for this since ddp looked so clueless; and got crucifixed repeatedly. Sure, if he cant stop it, keep it up, makes complete sense for chimaev, if he doesnt make him take risks then he shouldnt; sucks for me watching relative to just about every other fighting style that exists in mma. Even bjj guys that pull guard take risks. The thing that made me chuckle is how does the opponent have the best round in the 5th given the nature of the dominance. The last time he crucifixed him and landed a couple of elbows from more than an inch away were the only significant strikes of the fight....maybe a couple of blocked kicks.

You can respect it and admit it sucks to watch; those two things are not mutually exclusive.

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the UFC just needs to stop signing these guys, let them do this shite in some b tier fight promotion and let the UFC get back to what it was during the iceman/rampage days.

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You sound like the guy who’s afraid of competition because you can’t adapt. I bet if that was Bo Nickal doing that to DDP, we would hear nothing but praises. But since Chimaev is that part of the world, you want nothing to do with him only because he won.

People forget this is the same guy who snapped of Robert Whitaker’s teeth a fight ago within minutes. All of a sudden, he’s boring and we don’t want his type. I didn’t hear any complain when Randy Coture, Matt Hughes, DC fought with wresting style as champions. I guess they get a pass because they’re Americans.

I hate to break it to you but mma has become a global sport. All of the current champs are from foreign countries. If you want American fighters to keep up with the competition, you got to have the anyone anywhere anytime mentality. You can’t get better with “I don’t want to fight these guys”.

Bo nickal is a horrid comp, the guy isn't in contender position because he takes risks. His fights look nothing like this.


The low hanging fruit for your argument that this is about west vs east is gsp. You can venmo me later.


I will say i could get jazzed up for chimaev- deridder, deridder probably wont spend 15 mins crouched against cage with chimaev with underhooks and his head in his back. But who knows, maybe chimaev big brothers him as well. I dont see anyone else in that top 10 I expect to overcome this.

ETA: I'm currently listening to MMA fighting post fight show from last night and they have spent the first 20 mins discussing how boring the fight was, and who was to blame, shocked he got a fight bonus, Jed just literally said "boringest fight of his career (Chimaev)". All while admitting, there are not many guys at middleweight that will compete with this...basically exactly my point. Yet we got guys on here acting like it was great and you're just ignorant if you weren't at the edge of your seat; or finally the cherry on top: you're just racist if you didn't enjoy that.

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My sarcasm went right over your head. "

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It did lol. Early morning.

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but let's not act like he isn't showing development with his game.

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Showing development and what people have been saying about him are two vastly different things.

Why? Strickland is the most average champ in the history of the ufc besides Matt Serra

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Bro take a break... If you watched the fight you can clearly tell that anytime DDP had stepped up on him he looked awkward and immediately took him down. Did I say he was scared? No. Was he worried to stand up with him the whole fight? Yes 100%. It was great strategy for Khamzat to not let Dricus strike, its almost like Chimaev knew that is the only chance he could lose.

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If you know you are dominant and can be by doing something and not the other, it doesn’t mean you are scared or worried about the thing you chose not to do.

If a football team knows they can continuously run the ball for five yards play after play, and they do that, it doesn’t mean they were scared or worried about passing.

You take the guaranteed option and do it over and over again.

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Someone who "wasn't" worried about striking stayed on the ground for 85% of the fight and you actually think you have a point?

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Well, it was the 100% guaranteed way to win, so you do it lol. He’s fighting for a title not to make the fans happy.

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This is what Tacky does all day, every day on this website. He’s like the Kmart version of Mingo

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Thanks for contributing to the discussion lol

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This is what Tacky does all day, every day on this website. He’s like the Kmart version of Mingo

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Yep