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re: UFC 141: Brock Lesnar vs. Alistair Overeem - This **Friday** night

Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:59 am to
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:59 am to
Overeem will train for his fight against JDS like it's a k1 match though. They are most likely both gonna stand and bang with each other and that's it. The only real difference might be some dirty boxing that can be employed in the clinch.
This post was edited on 12/31/11 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 12:02 pm to
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yuki nakai must be proud of both aoki and kitaoka


Aoki had Kitaoki in deep water a few times, but Kitaoki is a great grappler and defended every time. I was surprised they fought each other.
This post was edited on 12/31/11 at 12:04 pm
Posted by 3lsu3
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 12:08 pm to
Is that only available on HDNET now, or are there other places to watch?
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 12:12 pm to
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Lesnar was landing on Overeem


He landed 6 total strikes, LoL
Posted by 3lsu3
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 12:14 pm to
If Lesnar landed 6, one of which cut him, you don't think JDS lands more meaningful shots?
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 12:26 pm to
2 of the strikes were kicks, I think the cut occurred when they were clinched up. I think y'all are trying to hard. Overeems game plan was clearly to get inside and hurt Brock's body. He was getting hit because he was constantly pressing forward to get in the clinch. The game plan for JDS will not be the same as the one for Brock or the one for Werdum.
Posted by 3lsu3
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 12:31 pm to
I agree completely, and he was probably dropping his hands so much for shot attempts. I'm still not sold on Reem and maybe I'm just being stubborn. I never feel super confident about fight picking as so much can happen in the ring, and so much out of it that we never hear about, but I truly believe JDS ends Reem's American run. I would even take a healthy Cain against Reem. Maybe I'm completely missing the boat but thankfully we'll know for sure in a few months.
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 12:40 pm to
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Aoki used superior grappling to win UD over Kitaoka (Aokis long time teammate),


That ending was wild. I'm pretty sure that Aoki was headbutting Kitaoka's knees.
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 12:42 pm to
In MMA anything can happen. I can see any of your top 5 fighters beating each other on any given day. Should be an interesting year
Posted by joey barton
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 12:50 pm to
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Right, I think the first time we see him taste HW power


Badr Hari beat the shite out of Overeem in 2009
Posted by 3lsu3
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 12:56 pm to
And that was with big arse gloves.
Posted by joey barton
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 1:00 pm to
Got it
Posted by Carlton Banks
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 1:04 pm to
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Anyone who thinks there's a better striker in the heavyweight division than reem is crazy. The guy won the K1 grand prix against the best kickboxers in the world.
I watched the K-1 GP, and even though Overeem won, I wasn't too impressed. His style consisted of covering up behind his gloves then countering with a haymaker. He is strong enough that he could semi-rock people even while barely getting a piece of their head.

You can't do that in MMA with those little gloves. He didn't impress me with head movement, angles, footwork, or much of anything apart from his power.
Posted by Carlton Banks
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 1:13 pm to
Ok, I changed my mind. That is just what I remembered from when I watched it over a year ago.

I just went back and watched a few fights from the K-1 GP and he was pretty good..
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 1:25 pm to
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Ok, I changed my mind. That is just what I remembered from when I watched it over a year ago. I just went back and watched a few fights from the K-1 GP and he was pretty good..

well that makes my argument easy.
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 1:41 pm to
AO is definitely not as smoothe as the rest of the field, but he used a lot of overwhelming aggression and great clinch work. He defended really well by covering up, then he'd unload.... Based on what I remember
Posted by SmackDaniels
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 1:51 pm to
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If Lesnar landed 6, one of which cut him, you don't think JDS lands more meaningful shots?


You got to remember too that the fight was 2 1/2 minutes. The last 20 seconds was Lesnar's go to move, the box turtle.

Posted by Cash
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 2:00 pm to
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The last 20 seconds was Lesnar's go to move, the box turtle.


It is an excellent tactic and it accomplished exactly it's intended result.
Posted by SmackDaniels
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 2:02 pm to
Looking back this might have been the most lopsided main card I have ever seen.

Try and do this,

Rank in order who looked most dominant

Here are you choices

Overeem,
Hettes,
Diaz,
Gustaffsson,
Hendricks,




Posted by Cash
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Member since Feb 2005
37634 posts
Posted on 12/31/11 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

Rank in order who looked most dominant

Here are you choices

Overeem,
Hettes,
Diaz,
Gustaffsson,
Hendricks,



1. Diaz
2. Hettes
3. Overeem
4. Gustaffsson
5. Hendricks

Yes I know I put the two guys that didn't finish at the top. Diaz got the edge because his opponent was much tougher that Hettes' opponent.
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