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re: UFC 141: Brock Lesnar vs. Alistair Overeem - This **Friday** night
Posted on 12/31/11 at 9:10 am to phatphil
Posted on 12/31/11 at 9:10 am to phatphil
quote:
If Brock had done MMA seven years ago instead of WWE, would have an amazing record and career I believe.
Those flight instincts when people start punching him would've still been there in 2004.
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Posted on 12/31/11 at 9:14 am to Maximus
Personally, I like Lesnar. This fight was an easy one to call though. He does not have the skill set or experience to beat a guy like Reem (or JDS or Cain). He was able to beat guys that he could intimidate and overwhelm like Mir or guys he had a massive size advantage over, like Randy.
I think his condition has hurt him tremendously as well. He has not gotten better in the past few years. Like people have said, I think he could have been a dominant fighter if he had gotten into MMA 6-7 years ago, progressed, and not gotten sick. He had as great a natural set of physical abilities as maybe any heavyweight.
I think his condition has hurt him tremendously as well. He has not gotten better in the past few years. Like people have said, I think he could have been a dominant fighter if he had gotten into MMA 6-7 years ago, progressed, and not gotten sick. He had as great a natural set of physical abilities as maybe any heavyweight.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:10 am to SmackDaniels
He didn't look like he should have come near the octagon yet.
Strong body shots but he crumpled as soon as he got hit in the stomach
Strong body shots but he crumpled as soon as he got hit in the stomach
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:16 am to LSUSaintsHornets
quote:
Why
Overeem got outstruck by werdum. He pretty much throws haymakers and knees, he isn't very technical. Dos Santos is faster and more polished on the feet.
ETA not saying he isn't a dangerous striker, but Dos Santos is better IMO.
Anyone who thinks there's a better striker in the heavyweight division than reem is crazy. The guy won the K1 grand prix against the best kickboxers in the world. JDS is going to need to mix up strikes and make reem fear going to the ground he can not beat reem by just standing with him. This to me is JDS hardest matchup in the division.
This post was edited on 12/31/11 at 11:18 am
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:30 am to KingwoodLsuFan
JDS will knock Reem out, last night did nothing to change my mind on the matter.
eta: And Nate looks like a phenom right now, very impressive win.
eta: And Nate looks like a phenom right now, very impressive win.
This post was edited on 12/31/11 at 11:32 am
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:37 am to LSUSaintsHornets
quote:
Overeem got outstruck by werdum. He pretty much throws haymakers and knees, he isn't very technical. Dos Santos is faster and more polished on the feet.
You're clearly showing your MMA knowledge
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:37 am to 3lsu3
I completely disagree with you. JDS will be moving backwards the whole fight and reem will be able to bully him and reem with little concern about takedowns and with the freedom to fully kickbox is very very lethal. Reem will have atleast 20 pounds on JDS when they fight. JDS is a great fighter but I see this as his nightmare matchup.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:39 am to KingwoodLsuFan
Let's bring back Liddell so he can kick Overeem's arse again ...
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:40 am to GeorgeTheGreek
that was just normal overeem this is ubereem now!!
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:43 am to KingwoodLsuFan
I have not read the thread, but between the retarded game plan(or total lack of one) and looking like he didn't want to be there any one think Les at was just looking for one last quick payday before hanging it up?
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:43 am to KingwoodLsuFan
Right, I think the first time we see him taste HW power, the old Reem returns with a quickness. JDS has ridiculous power in his hands, Reem will crumble.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:44 am to KingwoodLsuFan
jds could always bulk up.
hooray roids
hooray roids
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:44 am to KingwoodLsuFan
For those interested. DREAMs 9hr card was pretty good. Bibiano Fernandes won the FW GP,
Mach Sakurai beat Ryo Chonnan via dec.
Nagashima got tkod in the MMA round of his mixed fight (best fight of the night),
Aoki used superior grappling to win UD over Kitaoka (Aokis long time teammate),
Barnett, Sylvia, Aerts, JLB all had boring arse pro wrestling matches.
Fedor beat Ishii via 1st Rd KO by throwing straights instead of his usual haymakers
Mach Sakurai beat Ryo Chonnan via dec.
Nagashima got tkod in the MMA round of his mixed fight (best fight of the night),
Aoki used superior grappling to win UD over Kitaoka (Aokis long time teammate),
Barnett, Sylvia, Aerts, JLB all had boring arse pro wrestling matches.
Fedor beat Ishii via 1st Rd KO by throwing straights instead of his usual haymakers
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:45 am to Cash
yep i believe so. dude got paid 400,000 and we dont know how much more he'll get from ppv shares or anything else yet.
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:46 am to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:
Let's bring back Liddell so he can kick Overeem's arse again ...
A stiff wind could knock out Liddell now
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:46 am to Shoulderchoke
fedor has looked very patient his last couple of fights although one was against a past prime anarchist and against a judoka who hasnt fought legitimate competition really.
yuki nakai must be proud of both aoki and kitaoka
yuki nakai must be proud of both aoki and kitaoka
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:51 am to 3lsu3
I'm sry he's felt plenty heavyweight power. Dude fought the best kickboxers in the world. You don't seem to grasp that he has fought some of the best pure strikers in the world. Guys who only train striking 24/7. Can JDS knock Reem out sure but Reem has the advantage on the feet especially with the extra weight he will have against JDS. Did you see after reem got cut he didn't even flinch he is beyond comfortable on his feet
This post was edited on 12/31/11 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:53 am to lsucoonass
Fedor looked patient but it's just sad knowing he will be fighting cans the rest of his career. He might fight josh Barnett but other than that I see him just pleasing the japanese with easy fights. Fedor was my favorite fighter just the way he has been managed is depressing.
This post was edited on 12/31/11 at 11:56 am
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:55 am to KingwoodLsuFan
K1 is not MMA for obvious reasons. JDS might have the most dangerous hands in the history of MMA(note that I said might). Lesnar was landing on Overeem and had no other game plan as Cash pointed out. JDS will knock him out... Then again, I could be completely wrong 
, wouldn't be the first time.
, wouldn't be the first time.Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:55 am to KingwoodLsuFan
oh I agree no doubt about it.
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