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re: Tyson deal almost done...
Posted on 2/17/09 at 1:45 pm to fearthehat
Posted on 2/17/09 at 1:45 pm to fearthehat
quote:
Name 20 centers better than him.
You called him above average. Top 20 is considered above average?
but for fun
in no specific order
1. Duncan
2. Howard
3. Yao
4. Jefferson
5. Camby
6. Bynum
7. Okafor
8. Lopez
9. Hilario
10. SHAQ
11. Bierdinis
12. M. Gasol
13. Rasheed Wallace
14. Oden
then guys like Dalembert, Perkins, Varejao, are just as good.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 1:46 pm to fearthehat
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West is easier to find a replacement for than Chandler is
haha what are you talking about?
you are clueless
West is an all star. Chandler is lucky he even starts
Posted on 2/17/09 at 1:46 pm to fearthehat
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Your fricking nuts. THERE ARE NO GOOD CENTERS IN THIS LEAGUE. I MEAN NONE. You actually had an above average one whose better than 20 + other starting centers in this league and you traded him for absolutely nothing.
No your fricking stupid how in the hell is he above average he cant score UNLESS paul throws an ally,Can't rebound..aLL HE DOES IS TIP THE frickING BALL AROUND..and his defense went to shite with the fouls and his skinny arse geeting pushed under the goal... What can't hilton do that Tyson can...Catch an ally(Check) Play mediocore defense(Check)...Have you been wwatching this year our fricking point guard gets more boards then tysons weak arse but hes above average lol your an idiot for even makin a statement like that h....hes average at best and he would have never been average if he never met paul...Paul single handedly made his short little career here in NO look great.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 1:46 pm to fearthehat
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D West is not as good as you guys think he is. You can find 6'8 pf's in this league. You can't find 7 footers who are above half arse. Thats the difference. West is easier to find a replacement for than Chandler is
no, my loling was at the fact that you think millsap is gonna be a mid level guy after what he has done this year
Posted on 2/17/09 at 1:46 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
but for fun
in no specific order
1. Duncan
2. Howard
3. Yao
4. Jefferson
5. Camby
6. Bynum
7. Okafor
8. Lopez
9. Hilario
10. SHAQ
11. Bierdinis
12. M. Gasol
13. Rasheed Wallace
14. Oden
then guys like Dalembert, Perkins, Varejao, are just as good.
Wow...valid point...and well done.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 1:47 pm to eyeran
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Bench players bring energy. All-stars like West win you games.
D West rode the bench til he was 25. Bass is 23.
CP3 is 23
Tyson is 26
If you wanted to rebuild trading Tyson instead of D West is the wrong move.
It's not that I think Tyson is so great or D West is so overrated. It's the fact that you can find players to fill West's Role easier than you can find players to play Center.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 1:48 pm to fearthehat
We are rumored to be getting a 1st rounder this year and next year FWIW from HornetsReport..
Posted on 2/17/09 at 1:52 pm to Spudly
quote:
1. Duncan
2. Howard
3. Yao
4. Jefferson
5. Camby
6. Bynum
7. Okafor
8. Lopez
9. Hilario
10. SHAQ
11. Bierdinis
12. M. Gasol
13. Rasheed Wallace
14. Oden
then guys like Dalembert, Perkins, Varejao, are just as good.
1. Duncan, is a PF
2. Howard - yep
3. Yao - Yep
4. Jefferson - Yep
5. Camby - Give me a fricking break, hes 36
6. Bynum - Yep
7. Okafor - 6'9 and a PF
8. Lopez - love him
9.. Nene - ok only because of this year, previous years no.
10. Biedrinis - LOL, dude he gets all their inside points and rebounds cause they have no one else
11. Shaq- I'll still give you that one even though he's in mid 30's
12. M. Gasol - like him a lot
13. Wallace - PF
14. Oden - not better right now but if i had to pick one for the future then I'd pick Oden
Dalembert, Perkins and Varejao dude now your reaching.
So I got 9 mabe 10 or even 11 if you wanna throw Duncan in there. But he is better than 2/3's of the Centers starting in the NBA. I can't believe you put Camby on there.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 1:52 pm to Spudly
quote:
We are rumored to be getting a 1st rounder this year and next year FWIW from HornetsReport..
If thats true than the deal is much better for the Hornets. It's exscuseable if they get that. If not then its downright disappointing.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 1:52 pm to Spudly
quote:
D West rode the bench til he was 25. Bass is 23.
You fail to mention that West played 4 years of college ball and Bass only played 1.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 1:53 pm to eyeran
quote:
Bass only played 1
Point is still valid, but it was 2 years at LSU
Posted on 2/17/09 at 1:54 pm to SaintNation
quote:
No your fricking stupid how in the hell is he above average he cant score UNLESS paul throws an ally,Can't rebound..aLL HE DOES IS TIP THE frickING BALL AROUND..and his defense went to shite with the fouls and his skinny arse geeting pushed under the goal... What can't hilton do that Tyson can...Catch an ally(Check) Play mediocore defense(Check)...Have you been wwatching this year our fricking point guard gets more boards then tysons weak arse but hes above average lol your an idiot for even makin a statement like that h....hes average at best and he would have never been average if he never met paul...Paul single handedly made his short little career here in NO look great.
What Center scores in the NBA ?
Howard, Jefferson, Shaq and who else ?
This post was edited on 2/17/09 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 2/17/09 at 1:56 pm to Spudly
quote:
We are rumored to be getting a 1st rounder this year and next year FWIW from HornetsReport..
That would be a good trade. Although with HornetsReport, I'm not getting my hopes up.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 1:56 pm to fearthehat
quote:
1. Duncan, is a PF
2. Howard - yep
3. Yao - Yep
4. Jefferson - Yep
5. Camby - Give me a fricking break, hes 36
6. Bynum - Yep
7. Okafor - 6'9 and a PF
8. Lopez - love him
9.. Nene - ok only because of this year, previous years no.
10. Biedrinis - LOL, dude he gets all their inside points and rebounds cause they have no one else
11. Shaq- I'll still give you that one even though he's in mid 30's
12. M. Gasol - like him a lot
13. Wallace - PF
14. Oden - not better right now but if i had to pick one for the future then I'd pick Oden
Dalembert, Perkins and Varejao dude now your reaching.
So I got 9 mabe 10 or even 11 if you wanna throw Duncan in there. But he is better than 2/3's of the Centers starting in the NBA. I can't believe you put Camby on there.
despite his age camby > chandler. i think you can add big z to that list also. and while the spurs call timmy a PF, he plays the area of the floor that centers usually play. he's often guarder by centers and he often guards the other team's center. for all basic intents and purposes he's a center
Posted on 2/17/09 at 1:56 pm to fearthehat
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1. Duncan, is a PF
dude, Matt Bonner starts at "Center".
Tim Duncan is basically their center.
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7. Okafor - 6'9 and a PF
Nah, he's started at Center most of the year. 6'9", yes, and a much much better player than Chandler.
quote:
13. Wallace - PF
No, again. He plays Center
.
quote:
Dalembert, Perkins and Varejao dude now your reaching.
How am I reaching? You way overvalue Chandler. All 3 of these guys do more than Chandler. Id take all 3 over him now.
quote:
I can't believe you put Camby on there.
Wait....Chandler is better than Camby???
Posted on 2/17/09 at 2:01 pm to fearthehat
Lol your a joke ....YAO RASHEED BYNUM lol are u serious many Centers score...But hes above average lol 8 pionts a game huh?
Im not sayin he had to put up 20 but since he was above average then 8 points a game just ainr cutting it. I wouldn't have a problem if the guy was pulling down 12+ rebounds but he couldn't even do that
DO YOU EVEN WATCH BASKETBALL
Im not sayin he had to put up 20 but since he was above average then 8 points a game just ainr cutting it. I wouldn't have a problem if the guy was pulling down 12+ rebounds but he couldn't even do that
DO YOU EVEN WATCH BASKETBALL
This post was edited on 2/17/09 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 2/17/09 at 2:02 pm to Lester Earl
All these guys who you are saying that are way better than Tyson. They all have something on their team that makes their job a whole lot easier. They have guys who are scorers.
Look I love CP3 but he's a PG not a scorere its not his job to score.
His job is to create for others (helps Tyson out tremendously) But you can't find guys with Tyson's atheleticism very often at his size. So IMO giving him away for nothing is a bad IMO.
These other guys you mention have guys like LeBron, Parker, Ginobili, Igoudala, the big 3 in boston, T-mac, Vince Carter, Devin Harris, OJ Mayo.
It's much easier for an inside player to be able to get tip ins when his defender is going over on the weakside to help block a shot against a guy driving to the goal.
CP doesn't do that. So they need players to compliment him. I think Chandler complemented him very well and think its a shame they got nothing in return for him.
Look I love CP3 but he's a PG not a scorere its not his job to score.
His job is to create for others (helps Tyson out tremendously) But you can't find guys with Tyson's atheleticism very often at his size. So IMO giving him away for nothing is a bad IMO.
These other guys you mention have guys like LeBron, Parker, Ginobili, Igoudala, the big 3 in boston, T-mac, Vince Carter, Devin Harris, OJ Mayo.
It's much easier for an inside player to be able to get tip ins when his defender is going over on the weakside to help block a shot against a guy driving to the goal.
CP doesn't do that. So they need players to compliment him. I think Chandler complemented him very well and think its a shame they got nothing in return for him.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 2:04 pm to fearthehat
quote:
Look I love CP3 but he's a PG not a scorere its not his job to score.
he scores fricking 22 PPG
West gets nearly 20
quote:
It's much easier for an inside player to be able to get tip ins when his defender is going over on the weakside to help block a shot against a guy driving to the goal.
you're clueless dude. I dont know what else to tell you.
have you watched any games this year? What has Chandler done to impress you?
Posted on 2/17/09 at 2:04 pm to SaintNation
quote:
YAO RASHEED BYNUM
Rasheed is a power forward. Yao and bynum are two more that can score, but there ain't many in the NBA.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 2:04 pm to fearthehat
quote:
Rasheed is a power forward.
No, he's not.
he's played Center all year
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