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re: Tulane to announce new on campus stadium next month

Posted on 11/12/11 at 5:41 pm to
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 11/12/11 at 5:41 pm to
I'd love to see the drawings for this on campus stadium. It's going to have to be squeezed in.

My guess it would need to look something along the lines of Univ. of Cincinnati's Nippert Stadium:



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Early-century brickwork combined with wrought iron gates and trim give Nippert a comfortable old-time stadium charm and appeal, while continuing renovations have enabled it to remain a classic showplace for college football.


Posted by TulaneLSU
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:28 am to
If looking for a 30,000 seat stadium, Tulane should look at Princeton's stadium. It's beautiful:

Posted by threeputt
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:35 am to
Nice.. I just hope they do not go cheap like they did for the baseball stadium
Posted by TulaneLSU
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:45 am to
That baseball stadium makes me yearn for Mike Miley Stadium. Whose idea was it to use artificial turf in a baseball stadium? I think the number one reason people go to baseball games is to stare at nicely manicured grass. The baseball is completely incidental.

In today's dollars, Princeton Stadium cost $60 million. I bet Cowen isn't willing to spend over $30 million.
This post was edited on 11/13/11 at 9:47 am
Posted by wizziko
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 10:03 am to
they don't make stadiums with overhanging upper decks anymore so Princeton's stadium would not work

SMU, Akron, and maybe even FAU's stadium would be good to follow
Posted by TigerRantMan99
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:01 am to
I think they got the turf because all of the rain we get that time of year. Not just for us but Tulane is always the backup option now for the cusa tourney if the weather is predicted to be too bad at the host school for many days. The turf also allows high school playoffs to be played there without the wear and tear on it plus again - the HS's can use it even if it has rained. No my ideal stadium surface but it works well.
Posted by TulaneLSU
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:08 am to
Princeton's stadium was built in the late 1990s. Why do you say overhanging decks aren't used anymore? How many college stadiums have been built since Princeton's stadium?
Posted by TIGERSandFROGS
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:29 am to
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they don't make stadiums with overhanging upper decks anymore so Princeton's stadium would not work

SMU, Akron, and maybe even FAU's stadium would be good to follow


Cantilever decks are something that HKS often recommends and designs for space-confined stadiums, so I'm sure it's on the table for Tulane Stadiums design team, reportedly from HOK. In the case of the East side demolition and rebuilding of TCU's Amon Carter Stadium, they have recommended a cantilever upper deck addition to the East side for further expansion in the future, which TCU has said they will consider if they have 3 consecutive season sellouts. The problem TCU runs into is the art deco facade of the stadium, which they cannot move and do not want to destroy. Here is the best picture I can find, taken from the alumni center and prior to the demolition and rebuilding of the west side:

This post was edited on 11/13/11 at 11:30 am
Posted by TIGERSandFROGS
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 11:57 am to
Also, you mentioned SMU's stadium as a model. While it looks nice, they essentially built giant bleachers in the shape of a stadium and then hid them behind an exterior brick facade. There is hardly any concrete in the structure of their stadium, and to the discerning eye it has a very cheap appearance.



All the shiny upper part is horseshoe-shaped giant set of metal bleachers. The loudest part of their games comes when everyone leaves in the third quarter and you hear the sound of feet hitting hollow aluminum bleachers.

Edit: you can also see here that Ford Stadium has a fairly large footprint, which takes a similar design out of the running:

This post was edited on 11/13/11 at 12:05 pm
Posted by dj30
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 12:00 pm to
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Princeton's stadium was built in the late 1990s. Why do you say overhanging decks aren't used anymore? How many college stadiums have been built since Princeton's stadium?



dont ever doubt wizziko if it has anything to do with uniforms and stadiums.
Posted by TulaneLSU
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 12:29 pm to
Why not?

List all the stadiums built in America that seat between 25 and 50 thousand since 1995. Which of those has used upper decks?

The Princeton Stadium is beautiful and there is not a bad seat in the house. It has the feel of a large stadium, but everyone feels close to the action. It is a great stadium which uses upper decks.
Posted by wizziko
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 1:08 pm to
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Princeton's stadium was built in the late 1990s. Why do you say overhanging decks aren't used anymore? How many college stadiums have been built since Princeton's stadium?


I had no clue that their stadium was that current. Also, I was on my phone earlier so I couldn't see the pic clearly but ther upper deck isn't overhanging like I thought.

That design could work sans the exterior facade.

The Ballpark in Arlington is the only modern stadium I can think of that has an overhanging upper deck.
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 3:44 pm to
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Sorry, not in this thread per se. But whenever you see a successful tulane story/news there is usually a handful of lsu fans who dread hearing good news for another university in Louisiana not named LSU


I'm very glad for Tulane. Even though I am an LSU fan, I'm a New Orleans native, so anything that is good for Tulane is good for New Orleans. I never went to either school, so I don't have any hate for Tulane.

I want to see Tulane football succeed and this is a great step in the right direction. Tulane is not anywhere near LSU's class, so hating on them is pointless.

Posted by tgrgrd00
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 4:47 pm to
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Kaare lives in the CBD in the lone house that stands in all the parking lots near Girod and Loyola. The place is covered in WIST shite last I checked and he tailgates in front of it for Saints games, so he's not exactly hiding it.


He has said recently that he just moved uptown. I think he still owns the place you are talking about and is renting it to some people he knows. Just an FYI on what I have gathered from listening to him on the way home everyday.
This post was edited on 11/13/11 at 4:49 pm
Posted by TIGERSandFROGS
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 4:53 pm to
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He has said recently that he just moved uptown. I think he still owns the place you are talking about and is renting it to some people he knows. Just an FYI on what I have gathered from listening to him on the way home everyday.


Gotcha... Thanks for the info. It would be interesting to live in that place and have it for Saints games, but it would be pretty weird. He probably got tired of it.
Posted by tgrgrd00
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:28 pm to
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Posted by tgrgrd00
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:34 pm to
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He probably got tired of it.


Yep. Plus it sounds like he is getting married soon so getting out of that spot was probably a want for the future wifey.

No doubt that is the best pregame/postgame party spot in the area for games. I know I would love to have it. Interesting would most likely be an understatement.
Posted by GABlueDog
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Posted on 11/14/11 at 12:51 am to
If Tulane is building a new stadium on campus, then I submit Wake Forest's BB&T Stadium as a model:











The stadium was originally built in the 1960s and in sub-standard condition until the school began a multi-phase renovation project that included bricking the entire stadium, imploding one grandstand and a fieldhouse, building a new fieldhouse, reconstructing a grass berm, installing a new field, installing new lighting, installing new concessions and amenities, implementing new landscaping, and building Deacon Tower (new grandstand, suites, club seats and boxes, press box).

The place is now one of the finest and smallest stadiums in FBS football with a capacity of 31K. Notice how the grandstands are curled and right up to the sidelines. Every seat in the house is fantastic. The new Deacon Tower part cost $48M; new field cost $1.5M; other renovations are believed to have cost around $20M. Total pricetag: around $70M.
Posted by threeputt
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Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:16 am to
The artificial turf is the best thing about the new tulane baseball stadium ...
Posted by TulaneLSU
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Posted on 11/15/11 at 8:16 am to
I'd rather a very tight, enclosed stadium like Princeton's. The WF stadium, though nice, seems like it takes up a lot of space.

Is this stadium going to be announced in December?
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