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re: Tulane On-Campus Football Stadium
Posted on 7/17/11 at 8:27 pm to yungtigr
Posted on 7/17/11 at 8:27 pm to yungtigr
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What TCU has become, and what SMU is currently doing should be what Tulane looks to as a model more than Stanford IMO.
Key difference is those two have tens of thousands of alumni that actually care about the football team.
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Posted on 7/17/11 at 8:51 pm to saintsfan22
As I said before, what Tulane needs more than anything is to win in order to get the fanbase, what there is of it, energized.
Don't look at TCU, SMU, or god forbid Stanford or Northwestern.
Look at South Alabama instead. There is the model for Green Wave football to follow and emulate.
After being very successful in FCS football, USA football is moving up to FBS. They have carved out a niche for themselves in The Redneck Riviera, and they have a great deal of community support in the Mobile area.
That's how you do it Greenies. You move down, pay your dues for a bit, move back if you can. And who knows, you might find that FCS football just works better for your school's situation.
Don't look at TCU, SMU, or god forbid Stanford or Northwestern.
Look at South Alabama instead. There is the model for Green Wave football to follow and emulate.
After being very successful in FCS football, USA football is moving up to FBS. They have carved out a niche for themselves in The Redneck Riviera, and they have a great deal of community support in the Mobile area.
That's how you do it Greenies. You move down, pay your dues for a bit, move back if you can. And who knows, you might find that FCS football just works better for your school's situation.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 8:57 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
i think if tulane has back to back winning seasons, or even 2 winning seasons in 3 years, a stadium will be in the making... the key is too start WINNING
Posted on 7/17/11 at 9:27 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
quote:If they'd dominate, then that isn't the level for them. They have the means to be average in FBS; this is the level for them.
Tulane would absolutely dominate in FCS level athletics.
That's the level they need to compete in. At least for awhile.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 9:29 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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After being very successful in FCS football, USA football is moving up to FBS. They have carved out a niche for themselves in The Redneck Riviera, and they have a great deal of community support in the Mobile area. That's how you do it Greenies. You move down, pay your dues for a bit, move back if you can. And who knows, you might find that FCS football just works better for your school's situation.
I dont think you get it, that's not a good idea at all. What sense does it make to drop to a lower division only in hopes to make it back to FBS? If Tulane dropes to FCS it's pretty much a guarantee you wont be back.
The main reason they have sucked recently is because of lack of committment from the administration. They claim that's not going to be an issue any more.
You probably havent really thought this through and seeing how you probably dont give a frick about Tulane football I dont blame you.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 9:32 pm to D011ahbi11
tulane has more history in college football than 80% of the other programs in the country ... no way should they be FBS .. You people are sick
Posted on 7/17/11 at 9:35 pm to johnnydrama
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I've gone to Tulane games in the Dome where the announced attendance was 25,000 and I'll bet there weren't 5,000 actual people there.
5000 in the seats with 20,000 wearing their "Empty seats in the Dome" Mardi Gras costumes.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 9:39 pm to I Speak As I Please
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I've gone to Tulane games in the Dome where the announced attendance was 25,000 and I'll bet there weren't 5,000 actual people there.
LSU is one of the few schools in the country that announce actual attendance .. most school announce tickets sold ...
Posted on 7/17/11 at 9:39 pm to threeputt
wrong thread.
This post was edited on 7/17/11 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 7/17/11 at 9:40 pm to theGarnetWay
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So because they were good in the 40s excuses doing nothing since then and having no fan support to rebuild?
40's? Give me a break.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 9:42 pm to saintsfan22
thats the problem.
They have to do something to pry the LSU faithful of NO away from BR on weekends and have them stay at home.
Administration needs to do more to touch base with the local fans and the ones that actually care..and make more believers.
Most of my friends in undergrad left and most arent coming back. The kids from LA are staying, but other than that, they are all going back to NY, Boston, or Chicago. The kids come for 4 years and never come back on extended stays, so its tough to build a huge fan fare amongst the alums.
They have to do something to pry the LSU faithful of NO away from BR on weekends and have them stay at home.
Administration needs to do more to touch base with the local fans and the ones that actually care..and make more believers.
Most of my friends in undergrad left and most arent coming back. The kids from LA are staying, but other than that, they are all going back to NY, Boston, or Chicago. The kids come for 4 years and never come back on extended stays, so its tough to build a huge fan fare amongst the alums.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 9:43 pm to threeputt
I was baffled when they told us the amount at the LSU/Tulane game 2009.
Might have been in the 60s
Might have been in the 60s
Posted on 7/17/11 at 9:47 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Getting football on campus would be huge for Tulane IMO. There is enough talent in this state to have LSU and one other consistently competitive mid major, and there is no reason that Tulane shouldn't be that school. its in a major population center and its got a history of success. Its basically in the same place SMU was when they built Ford. They were playing in the Cotton Bowl and they were absolutely dreadful. They built a stadium and then brought in June Jones. A commitment to a strong staff, and strong facilities and Tulane can be a consistent bowl team at the very least in pretty short order IMO.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 9:52 pm to TulaneUVA
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40's? Give me a break.
I'm sorry all hail the 1998 CUSA title.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 9:56 pm to Golfer
They had ine at as the years passed it was increasingly emptymsave for when the tigers came to play
Posted on 7/17/11 at 10:08 pm to choupiquesushi
If Tulane can find a way to build an on campus football stadium, that would be half the battle towards becoming competitive again.
The problem is, getting support lined up for that stadium project. Fan support is at the lowest level I've ever seen it.
I've talked to Green Wave fans that would rather drop football altogether than continue to field teams of the caliber Tulane has now.
I've got no dog in this hunt. I do see another program just down the coast rising from nothing to FBS status in just a few short years.
I'd recommend the Green Wave fans keep an eye on how South Alabama is building a program from scratch.
And take notes.
The problem is, getting support lined up for that stadium project. Fan support is at the lowest level I've ever seen it.
I've talked to Green Wave fans that would rather drop football altogether than continue to field teams of the caliber Tulane has now.
I've got no dog in this hunt. I do see another program just down the coast rising from nothing to FBS status in just a few short years.
I'd recommend the Green Wave fans keep an eye on how South Alabama is building a program from scratch.
And take notes.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 10:11 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
I just dont see the logic in moving backwards when we have a leg up on teams like USA. It doesnt make any sense.
ETA: And take notes from USA? What do they have that we dont?
ETA: And take notes from USA? What do they have that we dont?
This post was edited on 7/17/11 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 7/17/11 at 10:21 pm to D011ahbi11
Tulane needs to win, in order to energize the fanbase and the community. Moving to FCS gives them the best chance to do that consistently IMO.
And the FCS style playoff format would mean a guaranteed means of bringing visiting fans for meaningful games.
It would be easy for Tulane to sell New Orleans to FCS-caliber recruits. They'd be competing against the likes of McNeese State (Lake Charles), SLU (Hammond), and Northwestern State (Natchitoches).
That's an easy choice IMO, Slam dunk win for Tulane.
And FCS might be where Tulane is more comfortable at. I could see the Green Wave winning an FCS national championship in the near future.
I have no similar expectation that Tulane will be in the BCSCG in my lifetime.
Again, no dog in the hunt. I'm done here. I wish Tulane football the best.
And the FCS style playoff format would mean a guaranteed means of bringing visiting fans for meaningful games.
It would be easy for Tulane to sell New Orleans to FCS-caliber recruits. They'd be competing against the likes of McNeese State (Lake Charles), SLU (Hammond), and Northwestern State (Natchitoches).
That's an easy choice IMO, Slam dunk win for Tulane.
And FCS might be where Tulane is more comfortable at. I could see the Green Wave winning an FCS national championship in the near future.
I have no similar expectation that Tulane will be in the BCSCG in my lifetime.
Again, no dog in the hunt. I'm done here. I wish Tulane football the best.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 10:29 pm to D011ahbi11
New stadium or not, Tulane needs to be a little more aggressive with their OOC scheduling. Try to schedule home/aways with more big-time schools, even if it means losing virtually all of them and offering generous ticket packages to the road team.
Call Texas. Offer them a home/away and 30,000 SuperDome tickets. If they say no, Call Oklahoma. Alabama. Arkansas. Auburn. Florida State. Texas A&M. Big Ten schools.
Try to get two games like that per year, and schedule two patsies at home for the other OOC games. Sure, Tulane will lose 90% of those games (maybe more), but at this point it's better for Tulane to go 4-8 and have people show up than 5-7 in front of nobody.
Call Texas. Offer them a home/away and 30,000 SuperDome tickets. If they say no, Call Oklahoma. Alabama. Arkansas. Auburn. Florida State. Texas A&M. Big Ten schools.
Try to get two games like that per year, and schedule two patsies at home for the other OOC games. Sure, Tulane will lose 90% of those games (maybe more), but at this point it's better for Tulane to go 4-8 and have people show up than 5-7 in front of nobody.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 10:30 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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Tulane needs to win, in order to energize the fanbase and the community. Moving to FCS gives them the best chance to do that consistently IMO.
They were 10-0 playing a good La Tech team to go undefeated and maybe 40,000 showed up. They would turn off the few loyal fans they have now if they dropped down.
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